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I knew those Fr*nch were up to something 😡
Our president. We're for nothing ._. And yeah, he's loved by no one
I don't understand how he's still the president with how y'all protest sometimes
Because cops are cracking skulls, gouging eyes and blowing hands when they aren't straight up murdering someone who doesn't comply with them.
He has the cops and doesn't hesitate to use them
If nobody likes him, them why do people vote for him?
Only ~65% of French people have voted on the first round, and only 27.84% voted for him on the first round. So it's not representaive of " people". And if your asking why so many people didn't vote, it's beacause the working class and the younger people are desperate and think that in any case the future president, whoever he is, will do nothing for them (which is kinda true).
The second round opposed him to a facist. We voted against the facist. The first round was won because of different factors including extreme PR from macron (with often false promises) and vote fragmentation of the left wing
So you have a political elites that is completely divorced from the people they govern?
I feel like France has solved this before.
Pretty much. Problem is, the solution you're thinking of is no longer applicable when you can risk serious injuries, lifelong handicaps and even death for simple protests due to the current police brutality happening right now. The people is not as desperate as in 1789 when there was a huge famine, we still have things to lose.
Those risks were present in the 1700s too. Moreso even.
Yes and what I'm saying is that people have too much to lose risking this unlike back then
Fair enough. I'm also not* rioting.
I don't know about French politics in particular, but in all democracies pretty much, sometimes there's just not a better option.
if we let him do it then we are for something. We voted for him and we knew. When I write ("we" it's the French not me)
You don't know how France works. And you think we let him do what he wants ? We're just fucking tired of always fighting. And I hope we're close to the final fight.
I'm french and I voted, I know how France works. Sometimes we try to fight but we give up, remember the usage of 49.3 for the pension reform. We demonstrated but when we saw that nothing will happen we gave up. I went to protest and I saw the amount of protesters decline each week.
La grève ça coûte cher. Personellement, mes parents ont du arrêter sinon on aurais pas fini le mois. On est plus en 68. Mai 68 a marché car on avait pas de crédit au cul. Maintenant presque tout le monde à quelque chose à crédit, et les huissiers n'hésite pas à te virer de chez toi pour que tu paye
Effectivement c'est un vrai problème dont je ne sais pas vraiment commment le résoudre, j'ai la chance d'être étudiant et de pouvoir dégager du temps pour mais certaines personnes ne peuvent pas. Je pense qu'il faudrait que ceux qui ne peuvent pas trouvent des moyens. On peut par exemple décider de ne plus payer une taxe même si c'est illégal, face au nombre de personne qui peuvent agir il serait impossible de verbaliser tout le monde, et il n'y aurait pas d'autre choix pour le gouvernement que de répondre. C'était juste un exemple qui ne peut probablement être appliqué mais je pense qu'on pourrait trouver un truc similaire qui aurait un impact tel sur l'économie que le gouvernement n'aurait d'autres choix.