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I know we have our Marxist definition and all that, but it seems to be a really pervasive 
, everywhere I go. Some people I've talked to think for instance, all scientists are silver spooned and never worked a day in their life because they don't do construction, or whatever.
How do you argue with people like this? Can you?
Scientists still sell their labour for some form of compensation/wage even when employed by the government. It’s not like they own any means of production which they can let others work on and extract the surplus value they produce.
I mean in casual conversation i assume people are talking non-marxist, cultural signifiers, definitions, so gotta meet them where they are at. E.g. shit salary, need to rent, shit healthcare, shit job security