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Maybe not the same jobs, but most people would. Human beings are wired to want to feel productive.
I don't think we should be abolishing money or anything, and different jobs should pay different wages. Still, I think all people should have their basic needs met.
Yes I don't disagree. But there is definitely a limit to what people will do voluntarily, especially if they don't feel their effort is respected. Finding volunteers to read to kids is miles easier than volunteers to tidy up someone's littered garden while that person boozily watches telly.
The Tragedy of the Commons is an old concept, very old. It far far far predates modern mega corps ravaging the planet. It is the simple observation that when people have free access to a shared resource they tend to mistreat it compared to their own property.
This is such a fundamental feature of humans that Aristotle was discussing it..
And that's why the best comes from society when people have the freedom to better their lot visa their efforts (despite this causing inequality) so long as people's basic needs are covered in a humane and reasonable way. But there will always be a difference between people. To eradicate that is to destroy the thing that motivates to go beyond merely what we'll do voluntarily. And those (paid) jobs are still very vital to society functioning well. We have more than enough evidence that goodwill and volunteers is not sufficient to run a society at large. People are more nuanced than that.
Like I said, I think we should still have money. I just think the basic necessities should be guaranteed.
Nobody should have to do a job that's horrible to them just because they need shelter and food.
If that horrible job needs someone, they need to offer enough money to be able to incentivize people to do it, and not just because the worker doesn't want to starve or be homeless.
Yup sounds like we're on the same page