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Here's a copy and paste from the 1933 article:

Rise in Stocks Reflects Confidence He Will Not Disrupt Nation's Affairs

Berlin is settling down to pass judgment on political developments. Politicians, economists and bankers declare there is usually wide discrepancy between the speeches of opposition politicians and the actions of the group when it gains power.

Consequently, it is not believed that Hitler will accomplish a change in the constitution or that [Reich Minister of Economics Alfred] Hugenberg will bring about a general reduction of interest rates. The government wants to obtain an adjournment of the Reichstag for several months, but it is questionable whether the Centre [Party] will approve of such action.

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[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Turning up the controversy to 11: there is a double standard in people blaming other religions for everything but not allowing criticism of Judaism. Even on Lemmy people will gladly insult Islam and Christianity but criticism of Judaism is a taboo.

This is a good recent video pointing out how far the double standard goes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taIyXzFx2oo

I do agree that there is no real benefit to using the term Judaism for Israel. Zionism has created their own subsect which is a nation-state movement rather than a religion.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That’s interesting, I wonder if there’s some historical precedent that may make people slightly more concerned about anti-semitism rather than anti-christian sentiment.

Fuck all religions, criticise Judaism all you want. But if you start talking about jews (or Christians or Muslims) as if they’re some sort of monolithic group, you’re being an asshole.

Edit: Holy shit, I watched the first 10 seconds of that video and the guest said “Jewish supremacy is the biggest threat to the world today”, which is one of the most overt, outrageously anti-semitic statements I’ve heard in the 21st century. Whoever that guy is, he should not be allowed on TV or YouTube, holy fuck.

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay now continue watching the rest of the video and do keep that outrage you had about Judaism in the back of your mind.

See if you have that same outrage when guests on Piers say similar things about other religions as the presenter shows examples of.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s no way I’m watching any more of that absolutely disgusting bile. I hate Piers Morgan, he’s a horrible, racist, piece of shit. I’m just as outraged about people being islamophobic. People being islamophobic doesn’t mean that we should accept anti-semitism, what kind of backwards argument is this?

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is not the Piers podcast, this is a person covering the Piers' podcast engaging in the same level of Islamophobia as Dan Bilzerian engages in Antisemitism.

Most mainstream media engages in the same level of Islamophobia as what Dan does for antisemitism. People are just so accustomed to it they do not notice how brainwashed they have become into accepting it.

Only when the word Muslim is replaced with Jew everyone suddenly loses their mind.

[–] MonkeyDatabase@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If it makes you feel any better, I do see your point. And now discussing this further requires nuance, and arguing either side will get you labeled anti-semetic or pro-exclusionism. The nuance will be lost and the label applied. You indeed turned the controversy to 11. Well done.

My only statement is that there's clearly a power imbalance going on. Shining light on that isn't a bad thing.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 week ago

I wonder if there’s some historical precedent that may make people slightly more concerned about anti-semitism rather than anti-christian sentiment.

Yes, genocide only happened to the jews, no other group has ever suffered either...

The entire WW2 history is not being used to excuse genocide conducted by Israeli jews.

People are dying but you are buthurt because criminals being named lol

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You know what really, really, really sucks?

All of this. Take the titles and names of the religions away. Make up new words. Call them all whatever you want to and you know what they all have in common?

Their humanity.

Any of us would be animals under the right circumstances. All of history says exactly that.

I wish we could find a way to do away with all of it.

Even then though, atheist states have committed mass murder. It isn’t just religion, it’s humanity. Isn’t that sad?

If we erased all of our history tomorrow and gave humans a damn Nintendo and a handful of cartridges, we’d be killing each other over Mario bros in 100 years.

I really wish I was just sitting in a dirty house in West Virginia, breathing exclusively from my mouth, saliva dripping at my feet. I wish I didn’t see humanity for what it is.

What really, really sucks is that we could drop this crap and get along if we were truly intelligent. We aren’t. We’re herds of bloodthirsty animals making things up so we can FEEL like we have meaning.

Oh well.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah i never get this clown responses when i shit on islam and catholic church being pedophiles... but god forbid country of war criminals get closed for what they are.

Are we supposed to ignore that that this genocide is ethnic/religious flavour to it?