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How good is Lemmy dealing with censorship and why does the sign-up process on lemmy.ml involve having to copy a sentence from "The Principles of Communism"? (lemm.ee)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Social_Discussion@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Hey everyone, I'm new to Lemmy and just starting to figure this site out. I mainly moved here because of the censorship on Reddit where they didn't publish posts that included the slightest word not allowed by their filter and they removed/blocked lots of content. I wonder if it will be somewhat better here (on the official site it says "Censorship resistant - By hosting your own server, you can be in full control of your content.").

The weird thing I saw with Lemmy was when I wanted to sign-up on the "lemmy.ml" server instance that according to the official Lemmy Servers listing page is a "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers".

So I thought I try that one when it's from Lemmy's own developers. When I wanted to sign-up it required an application that you needed to fill out with one of the requirements being having to copy a sentence from the link provided which links to some article called "The Principles of Communism" which I thought was very odd for a site to do. I've never seen a site like this promoting some ideology that directly where it's part of the sign-up process to almost pledge to some political or religious ideology.

This seemed very sketchy to me. Does anyone know something about this?

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[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is explicitly a Marxist Leninist instance of the Lemmy software. It's why it's called .ml. You can use a different instance if you aren't a Marxist Leninist. Lemmy.world is a Hitlerite instance.

Federation is censorship resistant, but each instance is still going to remove gross content for the sake of their users and instance culture. You can see removed content in the modlog, it's public for every instance running unmodified Lemmy.

As for why you need to copy/paste the sentence -- It sounds a lot like an anti-spam measure. Captchas and the like are extremely common, I'm surprised you find them novel. Are you asking this because you're planning a spam-attack and need to make sure the spam isn't removed? Your spam will be removed. While it's technically possible to go find, no one will care enough to do so.

[–] badelf@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

To clarify, Hitler and Marx are not in any way related. Hitler was a fascist, racist dictator (like Trump and Putin). True Marxism would be if the government of the USA was formed by, and responsive to the working class. A Marxist government (true communism) has an obligation to take care of it's workers, not let them die because they can't afford health care.

It's a short explanation, but it's pretty much correct. Join any server, and change later if you're not comfortable.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Whenever people try to imply hitler was in any way leftist I like to point out that the first mass privatizations were done by the nazis.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

I think it's incredibly stupid to call Trump or Putin dictators just because you don't like them. Fuck I even predicted Trump would win the popular vote this go around.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hitler and Marx are related if you’re a believer in horsesh~~it~~oe theory or in Hannah Arendt’s totalitarianism. You’ll never guess who funded and promoted Arendt (who unsurprisingly came from a wealthy family) and her theory.

One of the centerpieces of the cultural cold war was the Congress for Cultural Freedom (CCF), which was revealed in 1966 to be a CIA front. Hugh Wilford, who has researched the topic extensively, described the CCF as nothing short of one of the largest patrons of art and culture in the history of the world. Established in 1950, it promoted on the international scene the work of collaborationist academics such as Raymond Aron and Hannah Arendt over and against their Marxian rivals, including the likes of Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.

[–] badelf@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist." She pretty much nailed it, didn't she? Fuck up education has been the Republican playbook since Reagan, and clearly successful.

As an aside, I was impressed by the Marxist kibbutz started in Israel when it was formed by the Brits (legally or not). They were wildly successful. I don't know of any other true Marxist orgs.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Considering every socialist state invested heavily in education once they came to power, no, I would not say she "nailed it."