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Muslims who voted for Trump upset by his pro-Israel cabinet picks
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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You are the reason I dislike liberals.
You just look down on other people instead of trying to understand why they did what they did.
Be more like AOC. She asked her constituents that voted for both her and Trump why they voted for Trump so that she could understand them.
Do you know anyone in your personal life that fell victim to a scam? Used car? Telemarketer?
How many times would it take that victim being scammed by the same person before you called them dumb?
What does calling people dumb accomplish? Get them to hate you?
Why don’t you do something productive like help them recognize scams?
Not everything has to be about teaching a lesson, sometimes it can be just an observation of a fact.
Hard to do when they’ve decided the scammer is God and anyone who says otherwise is the enemy who deserves to die.
I’m not saying go talk to the hardcore MAGA cultists mate. I’m saying seek to understand motivations and be open to dialogue if they can be convinced (ie. Former democrats voters). All I’m saying is coming with “stupid” right off the bat doesn’t help anyone.
I do insult 45 because no matter what I do or say I’m not going to convince him. I think the Muslims who voted for 45 again in my state, however, CAN be convinced
Trying to teach stupid people? Obviously, you've never taught. Try teaching a fish to use a unicycle, then get back to us .
He'll yea those dirty Muslims and queers and commies and shit will never learn bc they're just so much more stupid than liberals, therefore why even bother appealing to them? Why bother trying to protect them?
This shit literally hurts democrats. This holier than thou shit inspires people who might have voted Democrat to not do that. Why are you an asshole to people who are so close to voting for you? It only makes people hate democrats. Maybe try actually arguing in good faith rather than assuming everyone who doesn't blindly VBNMW every election is stupid and evil?
I never said ANY OF THAT.
Get those windmills, Quixote.
Denying that you're guilty of that libshit doesn't make it any more tempting for anyone to vote democrat, and I say that as someone who voted for harris
The fuck are you even talking about? What "libshit" am i denying..?
So democrats should have done more to appeal to Muslim voters to make sure they don't vote for trump? Bc it sounds like you think it's Muslims fault not voting for their own eradication, rather than democrats fault for not promising to not eradicate them. And since you think they're stupid, it really sounds like you just don't think democrats should give any shits about Muslims, since they're just stupid trump supporters anyway
I'd say yeah. Fucking A.
Source, please.
I'm ChronosTriggerWarning, and I do not approve this message.
I'm gonna need some links of me saying this shit you're yelling at me for saying....
I'm of two minds: you've confused me for someone else's comment OR you've misunderstood, badly, something I've said.
"I'd say yeah. Fucking A" then what is even your point here? If you know Biden and Harris ran a shit campaign where they did nowhere near enough to appeal to Muslims, then why are you even here?
I'll post this again, since you clearly didn't see it when you posted it or when I showed it to you last
Calling people you disagree with stupid is an absolute shit way to get support. Again, if you think dems should be doing more to appeal to people other than the right, why in the fuck are you shitting on people who also think that? Acting like it's everyone else's fault you lost is gonna make everyone else laugh at you and never vote for your guys.
So I guess this is just a dead end of a conversation cx you're not gonna admit you and other liberals have a superiority complex over non-libs, and I'm not gonna accept that shitting on potential blue voters is the proper way to court them. Have a nice day, from the river to the sea 🇵🇸
Ok. I don't argue with children. Especially when they need a nap. You were entertaining, but this has grown tiring. Off to Ban Land with ye.
This is how you view non-liberals. This is the libshit I'm talking about. Are you gonna tell me some bullshit about how you're actually only talking about specifically the Muslims that voted for trump? Bc if that's the case, then surely you support more outreach and more good faith attempts to get Muslims to support democrats, rather than just calling them stupid, right?
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Wow. Cool. It's neither A, nor B. It's C: misconstrue. I guess Quixote was a prophetic nickname.
Now tell me what i think of liberals. And Christians. And Pacific Islanders. And black paraplegic Jewish Eskimo rodeo clowns... Because if you think that I'm lumping any demographic into that statement outside of stupid people, then you are exactly who I'm talking about.
There's a difference between ignorant and stupid. I prefer ignorance. It's just a lack of exposure to something, and it's easily cured. Stupid is stupid is stupid. It doesn't care about your race or gender or personal identity. Neither do i.
Are you a Muslim Trump voter? If not, then I'll wait for a Muslim Trump voter to call me out for the offense I've given.
I'm not lumping in jack shit buddy, you're just backtracking on the stupid Islamophobic shit you've been saying and backing up here. Again, since you seem to have a blind spot for your own comments
Again, if you're only talking about Muslims that voted trump, make that actually fucking clear instead of just saying Muslims are stupid and not worth appealing to (or "teaching", as you say since you're so much smarter than those savages)
I never said Muslims are stupid. I never actually said Muslim voters for trump are stupid (though i do think that.) I clarified that someone else said Muslim Trump voters are stupid, not Muslims are stupid. This whole crusade (pun definitely intended) you've gone on is completely misdirected, and kinda adorable. You're just virtue signaling so hard.
I agree that Muslim trump voters are stupid. And sure, you never said Muslims are stupid, but that's sure as fuck how your "teaching a fish to ride a unicycle" spiel came across. You're opposing the idea of trying to teach people to recognize scams, bc they're so stupid there's no point in trying. If the "they" you're talking about is just Muslim trump voters, try actually saying that instead of just implying something more bigoted and acting superior when someone interprets bigoted looking garbage as bigoted garbage. And just in general, try not being a self righteous asshat just bc someone doesn't 100% tow the liberal line, bc you and your buddies are really really bad for that, and again, it loses you voters and gains you nothing. But what do I know? I'm just some stupid leftie, not an ascended liberal white savior like your highness
In a conversation about muslims who voted for trump, calling "them" stupid is calling muslims who voted for trump stupid, because muslims who voted for trump are the subject. Since you agree with that, it is your poor reading comprehension that is at fault. You abandoned the context of the "who voted for trump" qualifier and went off on a rant about bigotry.
Why did you ignore the subject of the conversation, you know, the context, so you could go off on a rant about how elitist, and bigoted, libs are? That is the only way you could have come to the conclusion you did. You have to ignore that the subject of the conversation is not muslims but muslims + who voted for trump. This is on you. You are the one in the wrong.
Oop good point about the article, I forgot the comments I've been replying to have been on an article specifically about Muslim trump voters. Sorry, that was dumb and I should've paid attention to that in the first place
Hey, it happens, as long as you can look back at yourself and realize it, it's cool. Everyone struggles with this shit, I know I have a big issue with it myself.
Excuse me? Are you saying you gave up on your students?
Nope.
I read some of the comments from AOC's constituents. Many of them were not smart people either.
If you want to learn what it takes to sway dumb people, you can run a very unethical campaign like Trump's and get the Presidency.
Strong anti-generalization assertion.
Except
Ah shit, you opened with a cheesy generalization. Validating to see the"every accusation is a confession" thing holds.
But let's get into it.
one was bad but could be swayed
one was worse on all counts for all criteria, was only getting worse, can't be fixed and would tear down all the checks and balances that make government work
They picked the second option, overwhelmingly, despite the massive damage to the very fabric of the nation and the insanely worse prospects for them as a recognizable minority.
Logic it out.
First off all, I didn’t vote for the orange turd. Let’s get that out of the way.
Second of all, there is PLENTY to criticize on the conservative side but I don’t want to see another fascist in office so I’m trying to improve the liberal side.
Muslims had a SIGNIFICANT impact on the results in my state. You are minimizing their core issue - getting democrats to actually support not killing Muslims in Gaza. Thats it
And by choosing that as the core issue they chose to have even more death in Gaza. Even if they convinced the Democratic Party to now shift on this issue entirely, they completely lack the power to do anything about it because they lost the election and control zero branches of government. It's very difficult not to see this coming from an entire galaxy away.
And so the solution is to keep sending bombs to Israel and ignore them, since they're so stupid, right? Clearly their votes don't matter, so why even bother listening to them or appealing to them, right?
This is like asking someone to explain why they believe the world is flat or that we didn't land on the moon.
When those people vote you need to know why. Or be snide, that's worked out great for the Dems
It’s because they’re stupid and/or bigoted.
Cool. Don't meet their concerns then. It's really important to feel morally superior while you're politically irrelevant
When "being politically irrelevant" is not being a fascist, who has the moral high ground?
Way to completely misunderstand what I said. I'm done here.
https://www.thewrap.com/aoc-asks-constituents-why-they-voted-trump
Read it
Yep, real smart people there. Anybody who voted for both of them together is an idiot. They represent polar opposites of the political spectrum. She's basically the most progressive politician after Bernie, and he's the most regressive. She's thoughtful in the way she expresses herself, and he spews verbal diarrhea and lies as if he would instantly die if he said anything true.
Anybody who thinks Trump cares for the working class is fucking delusional. He's shown time after time that he doesn't care about anything that doesn't directly benefit him. He's a fucking monster and anyone who can't see that has to be stupid.
Yep. He had four years and the only thing he did was give away gigantic bags of goodies to the already obscenely wealthy. He didn't do anything for the working class.
You are focusing on Trump bad. Focus on “what can the Democratic Party do to be more appealing to voters?” The answer is be more like AOC - show you care about the working class.
This only supports my statement.
I think many people already understood they vote with their feelings instead of their brain. They care more about how a candidate makes them feel than about their policies. They care more about "the vibe" than anything logical. And it's fucking us all. A candidate shouldn't have to stroke anyone's fee fees, people should use the meat in their skull prison to make a sound and reasonable choice.
But i guess this country is certainly too stupid to make basic reasonable choices when presented with options. So you have a point. Don't call them stupid or idiots because their feelings are more important to them than reason. Fucking cromagnon politics. Gonna be even more important when the DoE is ripped out.
They said while looking down their nose through a smug sense of superiority
Next time she won't have to ask either
Rubles.
They did it for the rubles