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cross-posted from: https://ponder.cat/post/660354

The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a quick thinking passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car to free her

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not having mechanical door releases for emergencies like this just seems so friggin dumb, but what do I know.

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

They do. Each front door a manual lever and each rear door has a manual release pull tab.

A dumber idea would be driving around a car without knowing how it works. The article doesn’t even mention them until the last paragraph, and poorly.

The emergency releases are covered in the manual as well as official tutorial videos and countless YouTube how-tos. The front door lever is exactly where you think it is. You have to literally do zero research about the car you’re buying to not know about them.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And where are these releases? Are they accessible from the exterior easily like a door handle?

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No that’s absolutely something valid to bring up the exterior door handles are dumb.

If you actually want to know where they are, there’s one above the window controls on the front side doors, where your hand naturally rests. You just pull it up like a regular door handle.

Backseats pull a tab in the storage area of their doors. It’s behind a little patch of fabric.

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago

That's the first thing I'm going to think of while panicking when trapped in the back seat of a burning car that's not mine: "pull a tab in the storage area of the door! It's hidden behind a little patch of fabric, of course!"

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mmmmk, so now the driver is knocked out with the window up, what does a passerby do?

[–] pbbananaman@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Passenger side has it as well.

Edit: oh it sounds like you’re wondering what someone outside the car does. They probably do the same thing they’d do for any car with hidden/shaved door handles (not exclusive to Tesla). Bust it open. It’s easy enough that vagrants do it all the time to steal junk.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ok well that's good if true. Why didn't they use it? Are they not widely known about by drivers or not in an obvious location for ease of access in an emergency? That's my only assumption as to why this happened.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

They are also hidden by the floor, no exterior releases either...

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’m guessing they either didn’t know, or in their panic didn’t think about it. I just don’t think that’s as much on Tesla as the article seems to portray.

As per my previous comment, the emergency releases are absolutely covered in Tesla’s official guides and user manuals, many YouTubers have covered this, and the front door lever is in a very easy location to find (above the window buttons, where your hand naturally rests on the door). Funny the article only mentions the rear door releases.

At some point it becomes less the manufacturer’s fault and more on the owner for not understanding the safety features in the vehicle they’re driving around.

Tesla does some stupid shit, but they still have to comply with safety regulations. I’d rather see them get bad publicity for the actual stupid shit they do, like rely 100% on regular old cameras for self-driving instead of Lidar/radar sensors or put the turn signal buttons on the steering wheel.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Omg that’s so dumb. I don’t have one so wasn’t aware there were some models without. How tf is that legal

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I should not need to read a manual or watch a video to know how to open a freaking door on a car, especially one that I don't even own.

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I agree, but considering every manufacturer decides to redesign emergency open mechanisms for their own products I feel like the bigger issue here is a lack of standardization. This is not uniquely a Tesla problem.

Some cars require you to pull the handle twice.

Some require you to do it with force.

Others have a secondary mechanism.

They’re all different.

Not going to defend the design or their way of doing things. All I pointed out in my previous comment to that effect was that the safety mechanism does exist, and ultimately it is on the driver to understand the safety features present in their vehicle.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's not blame victims for poor design.

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I did not mean to suggest the victims in the article did not know what they were doing, just that you should probably get familiar with your vehicle’s safety features before driving it regularly. Of course that’s contingent on them being there and functional.

It’s possible they tried and it didn’t work apologies if it seems like I was trying to suggest that it’s their fault, guess I didn’t word it right.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are the passengers also expected to read the manuals and watch the videos before getting a ride?

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not defending the design or placement, just pointing out it’s there and that the driver should know what’s in their car.

As I’ve said with others here multiple times, I think the larger issue you’re touching on is valid, but also not exclusively a Tesla issue. Every manufacturer has a different way of invoking an emergency manual door release in recent cars, EV and ICE. Maybe that should be standardized across the board?

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you that it's not just tesla. I do also think we already have a standardised method of opening doors, and they should stick with it

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Not arguing that. Electronic door releases are nice but complicate things in an emergency.