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[–] Davin@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it was both playing chicken against each other. Dem leadership refused to listen to "progressives", I E.: things that most Americans wanted, and the voters refused to vote until the Dems listened to them.

So they crashed into each other and now the country is going to burn down.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If these last 10 years have taught me anything, it's that most Americans are not progressives.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They don't identify that way but most Americans are in favor of progressive policies when asked

[–] HeisenbergsName@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

The best example is the minimum wage increase in Missouri that recently got put into law. Sinema killed the federal bill a few years ago but somehow deep, red state Americans are not progressive? People love progressive policies, they just don't like the words associated with it.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

American politicians are not progressive. America has not had a true progressive in decades. Today's democrat policy has been overwhelmingly stagnant. Status quo plus a tiny tax cut for the working class.

The millions of Democrats who didn't vote shows a rapidly growing apathy towards the party and their inaction

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

They had Bernie, but they backstabbed him in two primaries, to please the corporate donors. And maybe there's the squad, at least two of them are still around.

[–] Davin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That's kind of a difficult thing to determine, when asked almost no one says they are, but if asked about policies, they tend to go for more progressive policies, even people that identify as conservatives will agree with more progressive policies. The people they vote for however, are definitely not progressive... Mostly, there are a few.

Then again, progressive in America is pretty much basic human rights and protecting vulnerable people which should be the minimum.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Exactly this. Americans don't care about progress, they don't even care about human rights. They care about the economy. Clinton was right, "it's the economy stupid".