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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

No it's not. People won't participate in a system they feel only exists to harm them. If i am at a bar and one bartender says they are gonna kill me if i dont tip 50% and the other bar tender says that they'll only rough me up a bit if i I don't tip 30%, not getting a drink from either.

People would rather not participate instead of legitimize a system that only does them harm.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

OK but the first guy is still going to kill you

I'm really hoping that this wasn't the reasoning people had for throwing the planet under the bus

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

People have been screaming at you for 8 years that "Not Trump" is not a viable election strategy. You need to offer an actual, concrete alternative. Until the Democrats start actually offer real alternatives, they will continue to be shocked these results.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

I don't need to offer anything. I'm from a country with a parliament, ranked choice voting, proportional representation. But if you still don't get that not Trump should absolutely be better than "whatever, I guess", you deserve what's coming.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social -1 points 1 week ago

So you believe that people who don't vote for what you want deserve punishment?

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Punishment? No. To get exactly what they actively chose to make happen? Of course.

Interesting that you'd frame "consequences if their actions" as "punishment". Because punishment is usually a consequence of your actions, while not all consequences are punishment.

[-] DokPsy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I agree with most everything you said.

Except, the planet will be fine. We're killing our ability to live on it for sure but the earth will go on even if it's just microbes for a few million years

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah cool Malcolm, it's been 30 years, you don't need to give this speech every time uses it as shorthand for "in the context of our continued survival on it".

[-] DokPsy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's an important distinction, imo. "Everything dies" vs "humans die"

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Luckily the truth is pretty far in the middle.

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