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So just 4 days ago we had huge thread about how great she is because she criticized US imperialism and immediately after that she's actively participating in the same imperialism. Also her position on Ukraine remains afaik unchanged, still supporting that fascist and ecocidal imperial puppet. How it is even possible to reconcile, is she two different people or what?

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 68 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Well, she is 21. That's just not a lot of time to shake out all your brainworms. And often people go down one path for a while before realizing it's connected to something else and it's a while before they start to see the shape of the maze. Took me til... 26? 27? To fully break free from my USian programming and that was more the start of a journey than the end of one.

Hopefully she'll do better than I will but she's too young to write off yet. If she keeps on this she'll figure out that climate change, Palestine, proxy wars, all of it leads back to DC, and behind DC is fascism. If we're lucky she'll even drag other people along while she does it.

I'll also say; Palestine is a much easier issue to understand the large scale dynamics of than weird parliamentary politics in other countries. Really grokking what's happening in Ukraine requires a great deal of historical background of the 20th century, plus digging all the way back through the post USSR history of Russia, Ukraine, Putin, Shock Doctrine, the OUN-B, all of it.

Hopefully she'll get better on these things.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I feel bad for her because of the pressure that is put on her at a young age.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

Word. She's been right under the media's guns for a long time now.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

for real. at 21 my takes were so hot they would have ignited the atmosphere and killed all life on the planet, if

  1. there had been twitter
  2. anyone gave a shit what I thought
[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

I get these Facebook "memories" stuff from time to time, and it's really cringy

[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Same.

She's been walking down the line of getting rid of brainworms decades faster than I ever did. Most of us were libs once, I often still am if I'm not conscious about things.

Maybe I am giving her more grace as a fellow neurospicy, but she has consistently followed through when actually learning more. Give her time.

It's also not easy to not be lib about this stuff somewhere like Sweden, the position isn't only hegemonic, it's all there is. Even in "left" spaces.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm 21. Maybe it's a skill issue 😎😎😎

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Do not underestimate the westerners' ability to compartmentalise this stuff.

[–] Castor_Troy@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

all of it leads back to DC

Washington D.C.? Das Capital?