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Is this sub-populated mostly by Facebook people? Some of the answers really feel like it.
All these answers are so killjoy and boring. Like yeah we should strive to make our own planet better, but why not also do this? Building habitats on other worlds doesn't prevent us from caring for this one.
Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home. Like how solar panels have come from space exploration.
Why would people want to focus more on things we can actually do right now and would improve our lives instead of completely unfeasible pipe dreams? I don't understand.
Isn't there space for both? Why not try multiple avenues? Why have this negative view on everything? Wouldn't you say the airplane and the car have tremendously improved humanity, even with all its downsides? Or the cellphone?
I bet at the time of their inventions you would be opposing it because "billionaires are bad and this industry is going to explore the working class". Guess what? Yes billionaires are bad and explore people and you (all of us) should be fighting against that, not against scientific and engineering inovation.
There is no way you are this upset about piece of metal existing on Mars, littering the rocks. You're upset about something else and transferring it.
I'm starting to suspect it doesn't take much to physically enrage you 😄
Every industry exploits the working class under capitalism.
Are we colonizing planets or building habitats in space right now or any time in the perceivable future, though? No, so beyond a fun thought experiment or sci-fi material, it's not an idea worth giving any serious thought towards.
Right because innovation materializes itself when we want ... We just flicked our fingers and airplane, cellphone and others just appeared.
Who are you to tell what we should or should not pursue?
Are we pursuing colonizing planets or building space habitats in any serious way?
Space exploration isn't unique to capitalist systems.
You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration
We all know what NASA research is really for.
My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.
If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.
He has Musk Derangement Syndrome 🤣🤣🤣
Too much time reading clickbait
lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it
Can you string together 2 sentences without culture war tropes?
Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.
@frauddogg@hexbear.net is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.
I can't really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.
Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as "culture war tropes" because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.
"Surely I can't be racist I'm one of the good white people!"
Yeah they will smugly condescend to us with their "not a team sport" shit all the while demanding we vote for their particular team because harm reduction or whatever. Meanwhile every president and 99% of congress people of either party in my 40 years has done the same genocidal shit.
Are you doing a bit?
The allegation was that you're pulling everything back to culture wars, and you instantly started talking about "MSNBC vs Fox" and the USA's two-party system. In a thread about China's space program.
Not beating the allegations.
Where the hell was China even brought up? This thread afaik is about settler brainworms regarding space colonization.
Like colonize is literally in the title of this post.
Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?
Being unable to formulate a thought, because you're addicted to drawing culture war lines.
I am not even the person that you initially responded to. You're just a lib that is in way over your head in a topic you refuse to engage in critically because it makes you uncomfortable.
Ironically enough in their fantasy about reaching mars with privatized space planes that is an extremely likely scenario lol
That submarine stunt was one of the funniest things that has ever happened.
Honestly if we wanted to do something neat that is almost exactly like settling an alien landscape we should invest in more deep sea research.
We don't even know shit about Giant Squid which are like the coolest most alien thing on earth.
Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.
That says a lot about you, then. The guy's a fascist but you don't care because
muh bazingamobiles and space crap!
Then stop obsessing on him maybe? The thread was supposed to be about space stations and stuff.
Colonizer fantasies and zero knowledge about how anything works
Nah.
What do you mean?