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Conversations like this are why I want more people, especially "normies", in the Fediverse (old.reddit.com)

submitted 2 days ago by Cryophilia@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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When we have a critical mass of people, we can get random experts chiming in about interesting topics in an organic way.

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I have not reached out to ST.website, and anyway it seems besides the point b/c as of now they have caught up.

They haven't caught up, their last post on that community is from 13 hours ago

There were quite a few since then

They are still behind from quite some time:

https://grafana.lem.rocks/d/bdid38k9p0t1cf/federation-health-single-instance-overview?orgId=1&var-instance=lemmy.world&var-remote_instance=startrek.website

Not sure they are aware, there aren't any meta posts about this, and due to the size of the instance (196 monthly active users), they might not have noticed.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Is there anything that they can do about it? It's not that I am against telling them but... why complain about something over which they have little to no control?

Also, at some point it had seemed to me to be caught up, but indeed perhaps I missed something, or maybe another issue started after I wrote my reply above.

I see posts missing from there, from PieFed, and much more rarely but it happens, from Discuss.Online. It's common, it's expected, and at this point, I think that no instance other than Lemmy.World itself has any "expectation" to be fully up2date, specifically wrt content that is on Lemmy.World itself?

However you want to phrase that - the federated model is struggling, going through a rough patch specifically while we await 0.19.6 - it seems beyond the control of even admins?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Is there anything that they can do about it? It’s not that I am against telling them but… why complain about something over which they have little to no control?

Bringing this up to the attention of the instance members. If that happens too much, people might consider leaving to another instance. It's this process that's helping people to move to instances that are stable and with responsive admins.

It’s common, it’s expected, and at this point

It's not

I think that no instance other than Lemmy.World itself has any “expectation” to be fully up2date, specifically wrt content that is on Lemmy.World itself?

See my comment above with lemmy.zip, lemm.ee, feddit.org being uptodate with LW

I could show you the same for the other 15 instances from the top 20, but you get the point

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, right, "from the top 20". What about Lemmy.cafe - I'm curious about that, especially since they are rocking 0.19.6-beta, they might be doing okay actually, for a smaller instance?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Lemmy.cafe is a single admin instance, it is one accident away from joining the graveyard of long-gone instances: https://piefed.social/post/253109

Also, using the beta version of the software isn't usually recommended, as this might ironically lead to federation issues

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Right but the problem is that there are no "good" solutions.

Blocking Lemmy.ml and thereby much of the Russian propaganda can be a significant boon for some.

That's a great point about beta software though.

Though if someone wants to block such, and they don't want to use single-admin instances such as Lemmy.cafe or quokk.au, or non-Lemmy solutions such as PieFed or Mbin, then their only hope is an app. Which also offers the benefit to not have to migrate to a different instance. Though I don't know which ones offer that.