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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I'd be shocked if they put that much thought into it. It's probably just good old unconscious ethnocentrism. Jesus is white because I'm white and that's my default setting to view the world.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Or because at that time they only knew white people so they assumed he looks like a person.

It doesn't even have to be some subconscious ethnocentrism. It could just be someone painting what they know people to look like.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

There's quite a bit of evidence they knew what other people looked like. Western Christianity goes big in Italy and they have regular trade contact with the Levant and Northern Africa.

That trade contact comes to the entirety of Europe thanks to the Byzantine Empire, also known as the Eastern Roman Empire.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pulling out the Aristotle, wow.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

thanks i guess lol, i was pretty young when i first heard it and it’s a pretty useful model so i like to share :)

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you like that sort of thing then there's a ton of philosopher stuff available online. You just really need to make sure of what they mean when they use certain words. Like, Locke was not talking about universal healthcare when he said a government has a duty to take care of the health and welfare of it's people. (But I did have a fun time arguing that he would have been in favor of it with my professor.)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 7 months ago

i know hehe thats why i linked it

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope! Renaissance painters just really liked their white twink lovers and used them as their models

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Do we have evidence the Renaissance white washed the Bible? Or were they just enthusiastically following what was already the idea?