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[-] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really dislike this argument. Just because it's "their country, their rules" doesn't not make it an issue? Especially when it comes to privacy concerns. Privacy concerns are universal. There are a plethora of serious issues that are not defended by "national sovereignty". If that was the case we should just turn a blind eye to North Korea, right?

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately this has always been the case with other country's rules. I'm not a fan of US gun culture, but I'm not American, so I don't get a vote.

Nobody is forcing you to visit either Singapore or North Korea.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I mean, North Koreans did kidnap people from abroad, so technically...

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

True. But if that happened to you involuntary data violations would be the least of your problems.

[-] moe90@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

I think this kind of biometric immigration verification will come to many countries eventually. Like UK, Japan and USA already tested this kind of procedure and Singapore is just one step ahead with this full implementation. So, we just can't avoid it. If this kind of verification concerns you a lot just don't travel abroad.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Singapore isn't one step ahead, it's full-on surveillance state.

The implications here are that if you go through this process, then these biometrics will bought and sold throughout the world. You'll be tracked absolutely everywhere.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

biometrics will bought and sold throughout the world. You'll be tracked absolutely everywhere.

But it is the same if you have a regular (non-anonymous) social media account.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

Social media is a privacy concern as well, but this is clearly on another level. I don't save my biometric data on twitter. I don't need facebook to live a full life. And as you said, there are anonymous alternatives. There aren't when you travel. And living without travelling at least a little bit is kind of sad. So the comparison doesn't fit.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

this is clearly on another level.

No. It is just other people who are using your data.

I don't save my biometric data on twitter.

You seem to have no idea what everybody is doing with all the data that you have posted.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

If you think Musk has your fingerprints because you tweeted about the last restaurant you ate, we clearly have no common sense of reality and should leave the discussion at that

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

You can choose not to use social media... the choice is way harder for avoiding plane travel unless you can afford the time and money to use other means, which most people don't.

[-] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's for sure an issue in the rest of the world too. Not discounting that

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

It is the standard means of passport control in Europe and UK, just with the passport added, but all by machine. Once they are convinced the biometrics are good enough they'll do this too to speed things up.

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