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The nearest abortion clinic – in Chicago – was too far away and too expensive for her mother to provide her with the procedure

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[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Yeah, look, man, I'm open to working with anyone in coalition, even if I disagree with them. That's why I'm a liberal. People who call me a fascist for joining that kind of coalition, they aren't open to working with me. I've interacted quite a lot with people like that. They don't want collaboration, they want capitulation on every topic so they can dictate events. Except there's five billion different ways that the various people in those communities want to dictate events, so there's not even an avenue towards uniting people in a functional coalition.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

As a socialist (social democrat/true libertarian) ish I don't totally disagree with you. However the question seemed pretty innocuous and even sincere. You came in a bit hot. I've done it too. And probably will do it again at some point. But when we do that it just drives us apart and causes everyone else to behave extremely too.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

I get what you're saying. What I'm saying is that when someone has already decided that I'm the same as a Republican because I'm a social liberal, then there's really not much of a point in anything beyond mocking them for being unrealistic and trying to play for the audience.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Do you deny that many democrats/liberals have over the years acquiesced and even assisted in bad Republican legislation? That's not a controversial thing to point out. They have.

And look even you are giving qualifiers now. Calling yourself a socially liberal. Which is something very different from economic liberalism. Which is what generally people are talking about when they talk about liberals. If I had to Hazard a guess. I would say that you are honestly pro-social democracy more than you are a liberal. And in fact on many economic issues would actually be more on the left with the rest of the Socialist then you would most economic right wing liberals. Just something to consider.

Anyhow I've said my piece. And it seems the actual extremist and downvote Squad have showed up. We had a pretty reasonable conversation but getting downvoted I don't see the point and continuing it anymore have a good day.

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