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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 months ago

Andrew Tate blaming normal life issues on women and pushing teenagers to be very hateful against them is one big reason

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

If the issues young men had wherent real he wouldnt have the followers. We do account for 75% of suicides so Tate's diagnosis is correct just his treatment is wrong.

[-] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 months ago

75% of suicide deaths. the number of attempts is about the same

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago

"Dont send a women to do a mans job" - Andrew Tate

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you can’t kill yourself properly, just find a real alpha man to do the job correctly? You don’t know jack about suicide. Here let me mansplain that for ya

  • puts down Tylenol, grabs gun

Edited for clarity since this is very dark humor: “In other news tonight, the “smiling woman” was arrested today after apparently murdering her husband. She was contemplating suicide but made other choices. The video was live-streamed on tic tock. Coming at 6 tonight stay tuned to WTAF news”

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Wait u thought i was being serious?

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago

I hope not lol

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

He preys on vulnerable young men, yes, that's the point. There are healthier male role models online but I'm not sure youtube shares them widely.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Exactly. But i feel both sides simply see these young men as soldiers to be recruited to their army of ideology. Regardless their is definatly a crisis of purpose for all youths thats effecting men particularly badly.

[-] Moops@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

This is such a wildly intelligent comment that I'm curious what the down voters think. Guessing either Tate fans or ignoramuses, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

I downvoted because the fact that issues exists doesn't justify the proposed "solutions". It's like saying that bloodletting has a point because patients really were sick, those things are not causally related.

I think that even having no one talk about problems is better than having someone talk about problems to actively do harm and gain power. One part of my reasons is usually this is not the case, and some already talk about the same problems but are not heard. Another reason is that when a problem is widely spread and there is no one exploiting it or raising awareness, there exists a pressure to start doing just that. So even no one is better than Tate.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

the fact that issues exists doesn't justify the proposed "solutions"

Ok but they never said it did. They just pointed out that saying "assholes like Andrew State are responsible" leaves out that there's a reason people go to him and thus is not the actual root problem

I think that even having no one talk about problems is better than having someone talk about problems to actively do harm and gain power

Wow, you're trash

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev -1 points 2 months ago

Reason people go to Tate is not because issues exist, there's reason to people going to any liar or scammer and it's never the issue at hand, it's the illusion of a simple answer.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago

Have been discussing it with them and they are simply unwilling to give him any credit even if said credit is for highly successfull marketing of a wildly dangerouse religion like ideology to vulnerable youths.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

How disgusting, people being unwilling to credit a rapist and sex trafficker.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Next thing we're going to do is what, not crediting Hitler?

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