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Google's latest flagship smartphone raises concerns about user privacy and security. It frequently transmits private user data to the tech giant before any app is installed. Moreover, the Cybernews research team has discovered that it potentially has remote management capabilities without user awareness or approval.

Cybernews researchers analyzed the new Pixel 9 Pro XL smartphone’s web traffic, focusing on what a new smartphone sends to Google.

“Every 15 minutes, Google Pixel 9 Pro XL sends a data packet to Google. The device shares location, email address, phone number, network status, and other telemetry. Even more concerning, the phone periodically attempts to download and run new code, potentially opening up security risks,” said Aras Nazarovas, a security researcher at Cybernews...

... “The amount of data transmitted and the potential for remote management casts doubt on who truly owns the device. Users may have paid for it, but the deep integration of surveillance systems in the ecosystem may leave users vulnerable to privacy violations,” Nazarovas said...

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago

But it could be used for smaller scale surveillance, like targeted at specific individuals

Why would this only be present in Pixels then? Google isn't interested in specific people. Intelligence agencies are. This would mean, that every phone in the world needs to be compromised using this sophisticated, stealthy technology, which is even more unlikely.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

If it is present there, it doesn't imply it's only present there.

And we really have no idea how close of a relationship Google, or any other corp for that matter, has with various intelligence agencies. Same thing with infiltrations by intelligence agencies.

And no, it doesn't mean that every phone in the world is compromised with this, which wouldn't be that sophisticated, just stealthy. The sophisticated part would be part of the normal design process, it's called DFT or design for test if you want to read about it, used legitimately to determine what parts of the chip have manufacturing flaws for chip binning.

Most phones don't have an unlocked bootloader, and this post is about the data Google is pulling on factory pixels.

Why would they do all the work on the software side and then themselves offer a device that allows you to remove their software entirely? And if it's worth it just from the "make more money from people who only want unlocked phones", why isn't it more common?

Mind you, my next phone might still be a pixel. Even if this stuff is actually there, I wouldn't expect to be targeted. I can't help but wonder about it, though, like just how deep does the surveillance or surveillance potential go?

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

And we really have no idea how close of a relationship Google, or any other corp for that matter, has with various intelligence agencies

Ok let's assume this is true, and US intelligence agencies have actually backdoored all US phone manufacturers. What about foreign phones? If this was true, someone the NSA is interested in could just defend themselves by e.g. buying a Chinese phone. All this effort, just to be defeated by foreign phone manufacturers? It wouldn't be worth it, which is why it's so highly unlikely.

[-] helloworld55@lemm.ee 1 points 55 minutes ago

Well to this point (I don't 100% believe this flavor of state surveillance theory but) you cannot buy phones made my foreign manufacturers and have them work in the US. For example, Oppo, Huawei, Xiaomi, all do not work on USA cell networks, and you can't buy them unless you go through an import process. Just to name a few of the many. But granted, those are all Chinese manufacturers.

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