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Google's latest flagship smartphone raises concerns about user privacy and security. It frequently transmits private user data to the tech giant before any app is installed. Moreover, the Cybernews research team has discovered that it potentially has remote management capabilities without user awareness or approval.

Cybernews researchers analyzed the new Pixel 9 Pro XL smartphone’s web traffic, focusing on what a new smartphone sends to Google.

“Every 15 minutes, Google Pixel 9 Pro XL sends a data packet to Google. The device shares location, email address, phone number, network status, and other telemetry. Even more concerning, the phone periodically attempts to download and run new code, potentially opening up security risks,” said Aras Nazarovas, a security researcher at Cybernews...

... “The amount of data transmitted and the potential for remote management casts doubt on who truly owns the device. Users may have paid for it, but the deep integration of surveillance systems in the ecosystem may leave users vulnerable to privacy violations,” Nazarovas said...

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[-] multi_regime_enjoyer@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

What is the advantage over Calyx/Lineage/iode OS on compatible devices? I just don't want Google to have any of my money at all. Buying a privacy solution from them recoups their loss.

[-] JameUwU@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Can't speak to what others are saying about Graphene but Calyx is amazing if you prefer a FOSS-centric option but still want GMS/GSF compatibility. Bootloader relocking is a requirement for their devices.

[-] Tazerface@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

I don't know about Calyx or Iode but Lineage doesn't allow for a locked bootloader. This is a massive security hole and without security, sooner or later, your privacy will be violated.

Currently, GrapheneOS on a newer Pixel are the only phones that Celebrite can't breach. Celebrite machines are cheap enough that the border guards and your local cops probably have one. In my country, it's the law that a cop is allowed to examine a phone during a traffic stop.

[-] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago

Mainly the locked bootloader that GrapheneOS offers. It's more secure, and GrapheneOS emphasizes security over all else, but privacy features are part of that security.

[-] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Other OSs let you lock the bootloader too. I know that iodéOS and CalyxOS do, for example.

[-] yonder@sh.itjust.works 16 points 19 hours ago

It's my understanding that Graphene has security as its main goal, not privacy, though it's also quite private.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

I like calyx, might try graphene some day. But I absolutely won't run Google's play services ala graphene. It's sandboxed, supposedly, but why run it at all?

Calyx uses microG, a much smaller, fully open source emulator of Google's services.

[-] tht@mstdn.social 3 points 16 hours ago

@RubberElectrons @multi_regime_enjoyer its not actually fully open source, it uses a lot of closed-source libraries, and its not as battle-tested as google's official one so there really isn't a reason to use it

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Just about all of your identifying data is stripped out by the framework before interacting with Google at all: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Google-Network-Connections

That alone makes it an important tool. I'm not too worried about memory exploits as I don't really install apps, but it's an important feature in graphene's toolkit.

For most people who want an Android alternative that's open source but don't have time to fiddle with it, calyxOS seems like a good solution. It just works out of the box.

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