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submitted 9 months ago by trwnh@mastodon.social to c/fediverse@fedia.io

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idk where to really put this (might turn into a blog post later or something). it's what you might call a "hot take", certainly a heterodox one to some parts of the broader #fediverse community. this is in response to recent discussion on "what do you want to see from AP/AS2 specs" (in context of wg rechartering) mostly devolving into people complaining about JSON-LD and extensibility, some even about namespacing in general (there was a suggestion to use UUID vocab terms. i'm not joking)

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[–] MichaelTBacon@social.coop 1 points 9 months ago (13 children)

@trwnh@mastodon.social

https://social.coop/@MichaelTBacon/110634358031380559

Non-corporate/non-VC social media really needs to stop hating on "walled gardens" and start thinking about how you mind the gate that lets you into the garden and who gets in and who gets out.

If this exclusion still seems bad, start with "fascists" and then work outward from there.

[–] MichaelTBacon@social.coop 0 points 9 months ago (12 children)

@trwnh

I want fedi folks to start thinking about commons instead of getting hung up on stuff that's basically warmed over "the cathedral and the bazaar."

All functional commons involve inclusion and exclusion. They are neither purely closed nor open. They are variously open or closed depending on the combination of who you are and what you want to do.

[–] trwnh@mastodon.social 0 points 9 months ago (11 children)

@MichaelTBacon i think you're using closed/open in a different way from how i'm using it, which for formal logic means either "everything is true unless it's false" or "there are some things i don't know, and they aren't necessarily false, i just don't know"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-world_assumption

[–] MichaelTBacon@social.coop 1 points 9 months ago

@trwnh@mastodon.social Ah, yes, I did miss that distinction, and it's been long enough since I did formal logic that it didn't ring a bell. I agree with your point too but yes, I see what you're doing is different.

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