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idk where to really put this (might turn into a blog post later or something). it's what you might call a "hot take", certainly a heterodox one to some parts of the broader #fediverse community. this is in response to recent discussion on "what do you want to see from AP/AS2 specs" (in context of wg rechartering) mostly devolving into people complaining about JSON-LD and extensibility, some even about namespacing in general (there was a suggestion to use UUID vocab terms. i'm not joking)

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[-] by_caballero@mastodon.social 1 points 1 week ago

@trwnh@mastodon.social @blaine@mastodon.social wait aren't 0 and 1 authorities ? if it starts with 2-9, it's a number in the same area code as you're dialing out from, starts with 1 diff area code, starts with 0 diff country code...

[-] by_caballero@mastodon.social 1 points 1 week ago

@trwnh@mastodon.social @blaine@mastodon.social i guess authority isn't the word for that but there's relrefs and absolute refs at least. not sure i follow the proxy out metaphor tho

[-] blaine@mastodon.social 0 points 1 week ago

@by_caballero @trwnh this would work except for the specific way that number portability is implemented. ๐Ÿ˜… At least historically, and very likely still today, the "database" used to map phone numbers as assigned by exchange blocks (i.e., to a given carrier) to phone numbers that have been ported to a different carrier by the customer (under number portability laws) was a set of spreadsheets synchronized by FTP at intervals. Access to said "databases" is entirely contractual.

[-] by_caballero@mastodon.social 1 points 1 week ago

@blaine@mastodon.social @trwnh@mastodon.social uuuuugggghhhhh i wish i could unlearn that hideous namespace governance

[-] blaine@mastodon.social 0 points 1 week ago

@by_caballero @trwnh so _in theory_ PSTN operators could provide a lookup system, but it'd be jank af at best, and more likely it would be a horrendous unfixable security disaster.

[-] trwnh@mastodon.social 0 points 1 week ago

@blaine @by_caballero i was thinking more that you could declare a tel: as one of your "aliases" at your authoritative wf and then it percolates through the rest of the system

[-] blaine@mastodon.social 1 points 1 week ago

@trwnh@mastodon.social @by_caballero@mastodon.social since tel: is extremely fraught, especially nowadays with insane phone spam etc, a Signal/WhatsApp/etc address might be a good alternative example?

I particularly like the "established encrypted messenger" example because the wf->[rel=messenger]-> lookup could get Fedi encrypted DMs "for free."

(obviously lots I'm glossing over that make it more complicated, but in theory it'd be less complicated than many alternatives)

[-] blaine@mastodon.social 1 points 1 week ago

@trwnh@mastodon.social @by_caballero@mastodon.social (one thing to note is that it's not possible to declare an alias, e.g. a phone number in a wf or other profile, and then use that alias in reverse as a way to look up the original profile. I mean, one could do it, but with questions of identity at play it would be an incredibly very extremely bad idea to do that from every conceivable security perspective.)

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