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An Israel with less support is one that is in more danger of inviting retaliation from its neighbors.
Of particular interest to me is Egypt, which only cooperates with Israel because of the US. e
I mean, you're not wrong, but again, it's extremely unlikely that Israel/US relations sour SO bad that the US wouldn't step in and help defend an Israel under assault. Again, it's theoretically possible but very unlikely. Plus, what you said is true regardless of who wins in November, which was my original point
I don't see relations souring under Trump, per se, but I do see him fucking up the careful balancing act in that region.
Furthermore, Israel is becoming so unpopular in the US that direct intervention would destabilize the country.
If the goal is defeating the US/Israel then electing an incompetent and unpopular president is not a bad result at all.
I still argue that a second Trump presidency would lead to worse outcomes for everyone involved, perhaps even the entire global population, than a Harris presidency.
I think a successful Trump presidency would be worse for people all around the world.
I do not predict success. I think his presidency will be a disaster.
But ultimately it comes down to how we respond. He won't lose unless he's defeated by a mass movement against his presidency.
I wouldn't really call his last presidency a successful one, but he still managed to fuck over everyone (except possibly Elon Musk). We can't let Trump anywhere near that office ever again.
P.S. I think you and I have fallen to the Leftist Curse of arguing nonstop even though we only disagree on like 1-5% of the conversation