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The others, like, 3000 of them
But yes I did mention the unfortunate kid playing with father's device
Not one kid, atleast two kids and medical workers.
"Tuesday’s attacks, which targeted pagers used by members of Hezbollah and have been attributed to Israel, left at least 2,800 injured and 12 dead, including two children and a healthcare worker."
"At least one explosion was close to a funeral being held in Beirut for some of the victims of Tuesday's attack, creating panic among those near the procession."
"People in Lebanon are terrified of everyday communication devices following two days of deadly pager and walkie-talkie blasts, said Nabih Bulos, Middle East bureau chief of the Los Angeles Times."
"Two beeps and a pause was the only warning Yusuf got. He turned around to face the noise, thinking it was one of his medical instruments, but instead was met with an explosion, throwing shrapnel into his leg. His patient fared much worse."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/18/lebanon-beirut-medics-civilians-horrified-pager-attacks
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-explode-hezbollah-israel-09-18-24-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz04m913m49o
It also had the exact same effect that a terrorist organization wishes to instill in a populace, terrorised to go out in public.
And if you think all of those 3000 injured people are militant members of Hezbollah:
1- it is just wishful thinking to verify your own world view
2- you will be very disappointed in the next couple weeks (or just again disregard any contrary evidence so as to keep living in your simple world)
All in all it is absolutely clear that multiple civilians including two kids have died, this was an attack with very high risk of civilian casualties and it terrorised/traumatized the civilian populace of Lebanon. This is not the clean surgical operation that you dream it to be, this is just an operation that demonstrates alot of power, reach and blatant disregard for civilian life. You are only drooling over the first two and pretending like the third does not exist (I dont know why because so far my impression of you is that you simply wouldnt care).
You know nothing about my world, don't try to infer my life out of a dozen Internet posts
This is a greatly successful operation with minimal number of civilian casualties. Usually, civilians casualties are much higher, and are never zero. I am not saying i don't give a damn about civilians : i am saying there are 2 countries waging (almost) a war on each other, and this operation is a great (tactical?) success
yea well you are going out of your way to disregard two dead children and health care workers as "minimal causalties" not to mention your biased supposition that 3000 injured are all Hezbollah militants. You don't leave room for much else.
"This is a greatly successful operation with minimal number of civilian casualties. Usually, civilians casualties are much higher, and are never zero."
And again your logic equates to "there are operations with much more civilian casualties so operations with few civilian casualties are ok"
the only success of this operation is just Israel demonstrating the extent of its reach. We dont even know who/how many the Hezbullah members are among the 3000 injured and 20 dead. Current knowledge states among the 20 dead are 2 children and 4 health care workers:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kn10xxldo
I am willing to bet more than half of those injured were not militant members or even members of Hezbollah. This is the only logical outcome of detonation of bombs in civilian areas. Trying to claim that all of those 3000 people are militant members of Hezbollah when these bombs exploded in hospitals, groceries, funerals and family homes is simply delirious.
State of Israel simply does not care about civilian casualties. For them ten Lebanon civilians and one valid target dead is still a success. I don't really understand why you are trying to whitewash this operation more than even the state of Israel does. This is simply drooling over power and influence.
Imagine the outrage if the sides were reversed. 3000 Israeli injured and 20 Israeli dead on a Lebanese attack.
yes.
Will see how it goes? This is your speculation. We both have the same amount of information
Definitely doesn't care much
I returning your argument to you: you can't distinguish a successful operation from a flop, because you are drooling too much for the other side
now you are just being cheap