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puzzling out the proofs for concepts so utterly fundamental to math by myself that it’s like if Genesis 1:3 was And God said, 'Let there be integer,' and there was integer

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[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

If you are already familiar with calculus but not with topology, I recommend you take a look at the latter.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

I'd suggest doing introductory analysis prior to topology. Having a bit of concrete experience with the topology of R helps motivate a lot of the basic definitions and results.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I'd suggest doing introductory analysis prior to topology

Pretty sure that is covered under 'calculus' in English-speaking countries. Is that not so?

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only if it's the math major version of the course at elite institutions, at least in the US. Typical versions of calculus will probably at best discuss epsilon-delta definition of a limit. They won't discuss topics like connectedness or compactness, and when covering the Riemann integral they will use a version that only works for continuous (and can be extended to piecewise continuous) functions, but the definition can't answer some basic questions like "is this function Riemann integrable".

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only if it's the math major version of the course at elite institutions, at least in the US

Huh? Wow, I guess the west is this barbarous. Seriously, those topics were covered in the first semester in my case, with the primary textbook also taking a topological approach (without introducing topology explicitly - just working with the metric notion of open sets, though).

Commercialised access to higher education has been a scourge upon your education, or seems.

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