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I'm not the person you asked, but I know the reference. I'll explain.
Have you noticed all the accusations about LGBTQ+ people being "groomers" lately? Meanwhile, Republican child molesters keep getting caught and arrested.
Have you noticed all the baseless accusations of bribery against Biden lately? Meanwhile, Clarence Thomas has been living large thanks to wealthy benefactors just literally bribing him constantly.
Have you noticed the incessant noise about how Dems must have stolen the 2020 election? Meanwhile, Donald Trump has literally been arrested and charged for trying to steal the 2020 election, with another indictment coming soon.
Every accusation Republicans make against anyone on the left is actually a confession of the things Republicans are doing.
FTFY. They don't even know the definition of Leftwing politics.
Accurate.
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An important aspect is that if you’re the first to (wrongly) accuse the other side of a particular crime, it takes a lot of the impact away from them when they rightfully accuse you of the same. It makes them sound like they’re scrambling for retribution.
I think we might finally be witnessing the limits of that tactic. If you do it constantly, while your own allies keep getting arrested for the things you're accusing others of, it begins to lose its power.
It will never be entirely powerless, unfortunately, but I do think we’re seeing it get worn a little thin. One can only hope.
Using it against getting vaccinated for Covid was truly the high water mark in the tactic. Literally killing your won supporters in greater numbers just shows how logic and reason is out the window to obstruction.
Because they can't fathom that someone would do something nice without an ulterior motive.
Of course, then there's the classic "buttery males" thing over classified documents.
Not sure if that really fits because I don't recall any other prominent Republicans having issues with handling classified information/documents at the time.
And Hillary definitely did mishandle classified information (whether it was marked as such or not) and sent it on an insecure personal email server instead of via SIPR or Top Secret channels. Trump, it turns out, did much worse during his presidency and was non-cooperative during his investigation. Biden also appears to have mishandled classified documents, but was at least cooperative with his investigation. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, we should be holding all the careless/negligent old boomers we keep electing accountable for mishandling classified information/documents. We should be holding them to at least the same standard we hold service members and government employees/contractors to and not giving them a free pass.
There's nothing that's going to convince me that Democrats' pushing onward with Hillary as a candidate instead of choosing Bernie, while downplaying her perfectly legitimate email scandal along with the DNC's own fuckery helping her cheat during the primary debates, wasn't responsible for her losing the presidency and giving us the nightmare of a Trump presidency instead. The timing of Jim Comey's investigation concluding sucked, but she shouldn't have done what she did and it's entirely her fault.
But yeah, I guess we can still mock GOP whataboutism with the "buttery males" thing if it keeps making us feel better.
The mishandling of sensitive government communications is and has been rampant in the state department and among elected officials on all sides. As someone who used to work with classified information, I find it sickening.