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I'm looking at you, ubisoft
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Reason for this meme is that some ubisoft titles are shipped with a broken version of ubisoft connect launcher. Installing these games is only possible by running the installer for the launcher again via protontricks.
i think you might be misunderstanding what '3rd party' means. if ubisoft is making you use an ubisoft launcher to run ubisoft games, that'd be first party. here's an article detailing what the terms mean with regards to game developers. a third party launcher would be like when you add a non-steam game to steam.
~~Third party~~ proprietary game launchers.
so like steam?
Yes.
What if i want to play the original portal game on a pc that cannot have internet? Steam does not allow me to download a straight installer, its a license with a long list of acceptable and non acceptable uses.
Don’t get me wrong i love valve and what they have done for gaming as a concept, as a linux i would not Be able to game as i do if it was not for proton.
But if i purchase a game i demand to own my copy.
I actually have a database where i keep pirate and cracked copies of games i own legit licenses because i refuse to have my rights limited simply because of the possibility of a victimless crime where checks note some big corp gets slightly less profit.
All games should be available standalone.
And while, am speaking my software opinions
If i buy a game license on one system it should cover that game all other platforms and systems. No more buying the same game twice just to play on different hardware. (This makes less sense if its a dedicated copy and not a license though)
All software from hardware that is no longer receiving support must be open sourced, i am looking at you near mint first gen ipad mini. I die before you end on a landfill in such good state.
If I'm reading you right, you're saying you couldn't play those games without steam because of proton? If that's what you're getting at, if you take your copies obtained from the high seas, you should be able to play them through lutris. It works for me.
Oh no worries, i am technical and autistic enough to setup systems that will serve my actual needs, regardless of economic/industry expectations.
Lutrius is great but i prefer Heroic game launcher, it can do the same but does also provides convenient acces to gog, epic and amazon licenses. I am only storing backup copies of games if i actually find it worth it to keep them, and i acquired a lot of mediocre titles over the years.
I also do still do use steam with little hate towards it there own implementation of proton is hard to beat in its reliance. I have yet to find a single game within my steam library that fails to work properly on arch.
Doesn’t stop me from working on my own alternative local game server parallel to it, Mhehehehe
Regardless i still feel like i should just be able to legally download some standalone offline installer from a website for later use. Especially for older games that used to have physical copies. whether or not my system can run that installer as it is, is morally irrelevant.
Mandatory first party launchers?
I dunno, I tend to think of the useless thing that comes up for a game I bought on Steam and run through Steam to be "third party"... Maybe that's a stretch, but whatever, it's just unwanted and unnecessary at that point
Steam is a launcher.
Yes, the launcher I use for almost all my games which gives me a single interface to install, update, and run them. It has purpose. It's the launcher I'm actually intending to use.
E~~ats~~ A~~ss~~ games (as one example) loading up their own launcher in the middle of that and providing no actual benefit other than wasting my time and resources is NOT something I choose to use.
Whichever one is primary or third party, I don't really care about the semantics of it, but the extra launcher that isn't needed or wanted is what I think of when someone's talking about third party launchers.
I'm just saying, there is a clear double standard in this post/comment section in general where Valve gets a pass.
Perhaps because Steam is the launcher we actually choose to use? That does make a big difference...
I'm a fan of Steam. People will complain about monopolies but then want there to be a monopoly for this kind of software.
I don't think it's entirely a double standard. Yes Steam is still a launcher, but it's also the marketplace I buy my games. If I bought a game on Origin or UPlay, and then Steam popped up when I was trying to play my game, that would still be bullshit.