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submitted 2 months ago by tux0r@feddit.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Linux people doing Linux things, it seems.

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

part of the problem is that old-time kernel developers are used to C and don't know Rust," Torvalds said. "They're not exactly excited about having to learn a new language that is, in some respects, very different. So there's been some pushback on Rust."

Linus hit the nail on the head. If you've been a Kernel dev for a decade or more, and have spent decades learning the ins and outs of C, why would you want to switch to something that is similar, but different in a lot of ways, just because a small subset of devs think it's the best way forward? Let them handle Rust and the majority of devs will keep using C, even though Rust is objectively better.

As one of the other quotes suggested: fork the kernel project and rewrite it entirely in Rust, that way there isn't any push back from the C devs. Replacing C with Rust in the upstream kernel is akin to replacing the engine in a car while it's running or being used every day.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago

even though Rust is objectively better.

In some of its characteristics, Rust is certainly a good language. The borrow checker, however, still haunts my restless dreams today.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago

I'm a C/C++ dude but I heard it being called the "Karen compiler". It doesn't look that scary based on samples I've seen, but there's way more to it I am assuming.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

I'm no Rust expert, but in my experience the borrow checker is a pain for a bit, then you start to get a sense of what works and what doesn't, and after a while it has taught you to write cleaner code.

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