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Failing Manufacturers Are Pushing the Narrative That Consoles Are Dying, Says Ex-Xbox Exec
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Aside from convenience, the price really is a lot cheaper than equivalent PCs. An RTX 4070 alone costs as much as a playstation 5 (with disc), and that comes with a controller too.
But you don't really need a 4070 for gaming. Just like you don't need a F150 to drive to work (most people don't at least). Plenty of lower end hardware does the job well. Over the course of the systems lifetime a PC can be very competitive in terms of prices for games. And it can be used for more than just gaming.
Yeah, it's the wrong generation and has a little too much power, the closest would probably be a 3060 which was available shortly after the launch of the PS5. But it was still more than half the price of a PS5 and you need more than a GPU for a computer.
But you also don't have to pay for online monthly you get better deals on games and or free if you're one to sail the seas imo they save you money in the long run and you can do so much more then just play games on it compared to a console
That's not really a fair comparison though. The ps5 has nowhere near the gpu power of a 4070. The PS5 is equal to like a low-mid range PC. Also console players are paying yearly subscription fees to play multiplayer. Plus you can think of the display as a cost as well. You need a monitor or TV, just like a PC. PC is likely more expensive overall, but not by as much as people think. Plus PC gives you so many perks over consoles. So you're getting a ton more functionality for your money. It's really not a HUGE DEAL to get a console once you factor these things in. Deal, sure. But not a huge deal.
People dont deal with more freedom, I know I dont. I have a pc and ps5 and prefer the simplicity of the ps5 setup which is a big selling point.
Yea fair enough. That's a completely valid point.
Im a lifelong PC enthusiast, but I recently bought a PS5.
The amount of games you can play instantly with 14€ a month is overwhelming!
I could never build A equivalent Pc for the same price.
I came to realize that I prefer picking up the ps5 controller and get a game started in less than 30~ seconds instead of gaming on my PC.
I don't understand this at all. You can get game pass or something on PC as well. That isn't a console only benefit.
I have about 100 games at this point I've gotten for free from Epic alone. Add in a few every year from steam and GOG, yeah not a great argument against PC...
My argument is that gaming on ps5 is cheaper and more convenient than on PC.
I referenced the game pass because games tend to be cheaper on PC in general.
The availability of a game pass equalizes the price for gaming and makes buying games on PS5 obsolete for me.
But game pass is available on PC too... Are you not understanding that?
I guess I see your argument? I don't really agree though - read my other comments.
I think we have a misunderstanding. I will try one last time:
My Argument: Gaming on Ps5 is cheaper and more convenient than gaming on PC.
Why more convenient?
(See my first reply above)
But why cheaper?
Not because of games (a gamepass exists on both pc and ps5)
But because of hardware!
Ps5=~550€
PC (with the same specs)=MB+CPU+GPU+SSD+RAM+Case+Mouse+Keyboard+Gamepad=More than ~550€
Do you disagree?
Eh I'm not sure I really do agree on the cost. Because like you need to add another $400 onto the ps5 cost for 5 years worth of online fees to pay miltiplayer (assuming they don't raise prices in 5 years, which they most definitely will) so now you're up about $1K USD or more. I just used 5 years of fees since i figured new consoles come out every 5ish years. Could even be longer. No one seems to factor this in when describing console prices. Rember, there are NO online fees with PC (unless it's a MMO with a subsciption fee or something but 99% games do not charge for online play.)
Also again, remember that a ps5 is a low-mid range PC. I think you can build a low-mid range PC for $1k or a bit higher, (crazy how expensive it is these days. $1k used to be a high end PC lol.)
Lastly, you'll need to buy another controller for ps5 probably. So that's another $50 or $60 or whatever the hell they cost these days. Maybe even a headset/microphone - not sure if those come with the ps5.
A comparable PC is probably still more expensive, but not really by that much....
Do you see what I'm saying now?
I do see your point.
But Your calculation also proved my point that gaming on a PS5 is indeed cheaper.
Sure. It's probably like 20% cheaper with much less functionality, like none to little customization/modding, and gives an inferior HDR presentation. But it's cheaper yes. so your point is proven, but it's badly wounded.
Game passes exist for PC as well, and offer even more variety there.
Boot time should never take 30sec on PC as well. But most consoles are actually not much faster in boot and loading times. People tend to compare a PC booting from cold with a console just booting from sleep/hibernation mode.
Boot times on PC however can easily be further optimized, especially when not using Windows for gaming. A gaming Linux distro will be faster by leagues, even in a cold start.
Game Pass owners fired the people who made Hi-Fi Rush, so I wouldn’t expect many bangers from them in the coming months.
I think in the near future, game-passes will cost one AAA game per month. Otherwise, I don't see how it will be sustainable business. Microsoft has already started increasing the price. I hope it doesn't happen though.
I agree.