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While it may have its military use, this type of munition will main and kill Ukrainian children for decades after the war.
Found this in another forum, seems relevant.
This is the good stuff, two devices like this can stop entire eastern armored division. Also it's a air dropped bomb, which means it requires air superiority. It's also massive a overkill against 1 or 2 tanks, or an APC - there are few massive concentrations of armor that would warrant use of CBU-97, except for Kyiv convoy and such, but it's unlikely to repeat. The thing you need for this is either 155mm DPICM, or 155mm BONUS, which has two elements like in CBU-97 per round
I'm guessing the cluster weapons discussed are mostly tube artillery projectiles, like 155mm and maybe M30/M26 rockets, because ZSU is artillery-heavy
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Source? I was under the impression that our cluster munitions came with a timed fuse where they would self destruct if they didn't find a target after a certain amount of time.
I think if you check the wikipedia page or just google for CBU-97 you'll find a wealth of info. More than I can summarize here, but it's far from being a dumb bomb on a timer.
That goes for any unexploded ordnance, we are still cleaning up regular unexploded shells from World War 1 more than 100 years after the fact and every now and then it still claims a victim.
It sucks, but you have to offset that against the benefit. The longer the Russians occupy parts of Ukraine, the more atrocities they are able to commit against civilians (cf. Bucha, Irpin, Izium, Kherson,...). Also when people talk about the civilian casualties, they always forget that the bulk of the Ukrainian soldiers were civilians just over a year ago, and they would love nothing more than to return to a peaceful civilian life. Their lives are valuable as well and should be protected too.
If cluster munitions helps them to get rid of the Russians faster and with a lot less casualties, it is a trade off we should make.