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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Walk_On@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.

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[-] Walk_On@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

Hasan is just following in the footsteps of AOC

Deeply unserious lol

Like someone on here comparing PSL to trots.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

reads a multi paragraph post

Calls it deeply unserious but does not respond with any detail

I'm the unserious one?

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

PSL does have a Trot genealogy, though is ML. Socialist Workers Party -> Workers World Party -> PSL. SWP was Trot. WWP were an OG tankie split and the origin of Marcyism, literally led by Marcy. They adopted more ML stances but didn't shed all Trotskyist thought. So many people handing out little papers and making unrealistic proclamations about what organized labor would do in the imperisl core. Then PSL split off of that over internal organizational disputes. PSL seems to have been on the right side of that and is obviously now even cooler and more ML, and explicitly so.

But I do think see echoes of its Trotskyist parentage from time to time. For example, putting so much energy into electoral vanguardism, aping Bolshevik structures, and coming across as detached from the community when it comes to local work. To me, one of the more salient failures of Trots is in how they tend to aesthetically go through the motions of an idealized canon of What Trotsky Said To Do, which is often just what Lenin et al developed for their conditions, and generally fail to do the science of revolution. Much time spent self-congratulating, picking bad fights with others while repeating boilerplate lines, and then launching into the Next Big Thing that is Very Communist because leadership made A Great Speech. This does not describe PSL, but I do think you can see legacy bits of that kind of thinking pop up on occasion.

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