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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 146 points 2 months ago

Considering that RAM is shared with the GPU, it's still not enough.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 149 points 2 months ago

It's OK - for an extra $400 they'll sell you one with an extra $50 worth of RAM.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago

It doesn't even cost that for them.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I think they meant what the end user would NORMALLY pay, which is the better comparison.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

But Apple isn't buying consumer ram, they're spending $8 to put on a different chip instead. If other laptop manufacturers are charging $50, it's because they think they can get away with it, like apple.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Think that's not really what's being compared, but ok

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

The point is that the scam is actually even worse.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

It's really not. Other companies with socketed RAM also upsell, they are just limited in how much they can ask because the customer has the option to DIY adding more RAM. So the cost these companies charge is roughly the price to the customer of upgrading their own RAM, plus a bit extra for the convenience of not having to do that.

For example, Framework upcharges by something like 20-50% for RAM and SSDs when comparing to equivalent parts. It's not just Apple, all OEMs do it, but Apple can charge much more because the user can't easily replace either on their own.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Since everyone is doing it, we should not call it out and just accept those insane margins...

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

My point is it's not unique to Apple, so saying "don't buy Apple because they do X" when literally every other computer company does the same thing is a poor argument.

That's really not the fight we should be having, we should be fighting for a right to repair, which would mean we'd at least have a chance at an alternative to their overpriced services. Even if upgrades are complex, if customer and independent repair places have access to parts, someone will find a way to do those upgrades.

[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago

$800 for $30 of ram

[-] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

"yeah but that's like having 32GB on a lame PC"

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I remember an Apple fanboy arguing that this made things better!

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

It does make some things better, but there are a number of downsides too. The biggest downside is that it's not practical to make the memory socketed because of the speed that's required.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

They balance that out by having almost no games for the Mac anyway.

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