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Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
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The 2016 Russiagate smears because she lost to Trump...
The DNC and the politicians bought by the owner-class are the ones pushing out these long-time Democrats.
Tulsi was for Bernie Sanders; I wonder what could have caused such a big shift.
I suggest learning more from independent journalists and not just from owner-class media.
Why do you post...why are you here
Echo chambers and self-censorship do not help the working class.
Diverse ideas and thoughts are needed in Lemmy, even if they may be seen as controversial or extreme from the status quo point of view.
Most posts on Lemmy are from owner-class media and the duopoly talking points.
Lies don’t help either.
Being so dense as to lead folks off a cliff doesn’t help.
Calling the world “owner class” and then recommending horse shit is a poison pill.
You’re either malicious or too stupid to see the harm you create.
Regardless you keep equating Lemmy with media and showing everyone the “quality” of your argument.
Thanks for joining in.
I disagree, but feel free to continue your status quo world views.
I will continue to share my diverse ideas.
I’ve been here for a while.
Your posts have been continuously rejected. You are almost unanimously rejected every time you show up and shit one sided bs.
Why do you call that diversity?
Other diverse folks get persecuted by the same people you refuse to criticize. Why do you claim yourself as diverse?
That is to be expected when you go against the status quo and the duopoly.
You are just assuming now, I call out the duopoly, not just one or the other.
You reminded me of these quotes:
"I don’t criticize Democrats cuz I side with Republicans, I criticize Democrats Cuz THEY side with Republicans."
"Our fight is not Left/Right anymore, it is Us vs.Them."
"We have 2 corporate party’s that serve Wall St/War Machine/Corporations & crush everyone else. #UniParty @0rf"
"diversity -- A variety or assortment."
Again, I try to share things not seen in Lemmy, so it is expected that people only wanting the status quo will push against anything outside of that view point.
So basically accuse people of “the duopoly” or whatever. Great quotes:
“People are different and this is why everyone is wrong”
“Citing “Class war” means I don’t have to be accurate or even remotely correct”
“My fisher-price understanding of politics means there’s no room for debate…”
Something something about wrestling with a pig and how much they like getting everyone dirty…
Going back to these quotes:
“I don’t criticize Democrats cuz I side with Republicans, I criticize Democrats Cuz THEY side with Republicans.”
“Our fight is not Left/Right anymore, it is Us vs.Them.”
“We have 2 corporate party’s that serve Wall St/War Machine/Corporations & crush everyone else. #UniParty @0rf”
Just by reading these quotes, it should tell you more than plenty of our difference in world views.
It is just a difference in opinion, no need to put words in my mouth or assume anything that I am or am not for.
I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is ever downvoting you because of difference of intention.
Sorry to be the messenger BUT YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DISMISSED BECASE OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR ARGUMENT.
You aren’t really different in intention from anyone else you just end up with the shittiest take that no one can understand or relate to.
Like consider yourself in a room of liberal manifesto folks and all you can do is spout Hillary Clinton conspiracies… maybe the issue isn’t protecting kids… maybe it’s you?
I also share owner-class media and much more, so I already know you are not correct on the matter.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts though, I know we will not agree on our view points.
“Owner-class” = self defeating rhetoric.
We should all get past capitalistic BS. But self defeating BS only makes this harder
Do you remember the 99% versus the 1% protests?
It is just a continuation, owner-class versus the working class.
What’s interesting is that I remember, supported, and know folks who participated in those protests..
None of them said what you say nor sounded as dumb as you do.
It’s weird knowing and interacting with that element while hearing you say dumb shit like this…
Like having an anarchists library on hand didn’t mean I had to deal with this level of dumb…
Thanks for your insights and your nice words.
People can be a part of something without aligning 100% with the movement, that is just being a follower, not a leader.
I question your experiences, but I will not push back on them.
I appreciate the civility. Though, I hope you eventually realize how much your own words are part of “the movement” against you.
You can worry about my “experience” all you want but at some point you should understand how little your “experience” means. Other voices have a place… consider them!
I am sharing diverse experiences, just look at my post history.
It does not align with the status quo.
“Status quo” is in your head.
“The point” on the other hand…
I understand what you are point out.
I will continue to learn and talk with those that do not agree with me and those that do.
One thing that the dishonest debaters like to do is come in and claim they really represent a group of people while proposing ideas that would result in serious harm to that group of people if implemented.
I pointed out how votes can be poisoned through the Schoolhouse Example elsewhere in this thread. A few votes in a weak location can result in all of us being 'represented' by people who mean to harm our interests.
There are two major factions vying for political control in the USA. Democrats are our 'Left' party, and yes, it'd be pretty darn Right in another country, but the US isn't a Left-Leaning country by any measure, so the Dems are the best we can get. They represent a slow-walk towards the cliff of civil rights destruction, and yes, I'd love an alternative to them. But we must remember the Other Side -- an Alt-Right Authoritarian Dictatorship in waiting, led by a convicted felon with a need for this office and a plan (Project 2025) for when he gets in that will result in real harms to workers and minorities -- a full-tilt run at that cliff I mentioned before.
How can you claim to be pro-worker while depressing the turnout for the major party most favourable to workers? How can you claim to be pro-minority by making minorities stay home or vote third party? How can you do this knowing that Cheerleader will win 48/30/16 if you listen to the bogus memes being put out by Team Bookish Girl? You can't...unless your goal is to ensure that the Democrats lose and thus giving the election to the Republicans and subjecting all of us to Project 2025.
I'd like to call these users out, but Rule 3 prevents me, even as these users refers to me and the rest of the actual pro-worker and pro-minorities 'Blue MAGA', but maybe this rational discussion can highlight what the threat from these dishonest debaters actually are.