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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago

turns out duckduckgo does AI search result summaries too, although at least you can turn the little bastards off

[-] self@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago

it’s unfortunate that all the Google alternatives big enough to matter are all-in on making the exact same mistakes as Google at roughly the same time, probably in hopes that one of them can swoop in and take the top dog spot when the monopoly ruling finally makes Google stumble

and if that sounds like a fucking stupid plan, you’re right, and that’s why neither of us are advertising executives

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago

Off-the-cuff prediction: there probably won't be one dominant search engine after Google stumbles, for a few reasons:

  • All of them are making the exact same mistakes as Google, as self noted (when they aren't having their own unique dumpster fires)

  • AI has made it much easier to spam searches with SEO shite, so any attempts at algorithmic search risk being spammed to death in short order

  • Public trust in tech is utterly shot to hell - not sure how much people trust search specifically, but I suspect people are currently trusting word-of-mouth (e.g. Reddit, TikTok) over whatever any of the major search engines are providing right now

[-] zogwarg@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

In retrospect google since it's inception, when it was still good, google always actually relied on human curation. Primary component of pagerank were:

  • "how much have people linked to this?"
  • "how much have reliable sites linked to this?"
  • "how good quality are pages from this site usually?"

(Which is still a way to get value out of google by adding "site:www.reliable-website.example" tags)

It was definitely a useful product, but ultimately it relies on human labor to surface quality results closer to the top.

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