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Wtf?? Yes, he’s a dick and annoying, but who sells their fucking car because they don’t like the companies CEO???
Tesla is not just selling cars; it’s also selling a lifestyle brand about green energy and pro-environment technology. That brand is being damaged by Elon, which its owners accurately perceive and don’t like. So… here we are.
I (and I would imagine most other people) can't even name the CEO for any car company outside of Tesla and maybe a few small niche brands.
And if they all did, we wouldn't be able to buy anything.
Teslas aren't buy-it-and-forget-about-it. They are continually making updates to the software, and building new charging stations. My Toyota hasn't changed since it left the factory (aside from normal maintenance), and Toyota doesn't have significant influence on how I can get gas.
Tesla is a horrible car.
I dunno. Seems smarter and more lucrative than buying shit from companies you don’t like and burning it like a sociopathic child.
Virtue signalers. Weirdly that's what people who bought it because of him were called so I honestly have no idea who to believe.
Buy them, don't buy them. No idea why this has to be such a big thing. He's a bellend. So was jobs. So was Edison. So we're most people you've heard of. That doesn't mean the product isn't good.
At this point if you buy anything you're ostensibly supporting some dick. You just have to pick your battles and at the moment I couldn't give a crap what he says on twitter as I don't use it and can't wait for it and Facebook to be killed off. Doesn't mean they make crap products no one about buy.
Honestly, tribalism is the worst thing on Reddit and lemmy seems to be more and more infected each day
I think he's an absolute donkey, but I see Tesla separately from him. The company itself and their cars are pretty solid.
I've been reading that the QC on Tesla vehicles is actually fairly poor though. Panels not aligned and such. There's also the false range readings.
Nah, that's all internet myths these days. The first 6 motnsh, maybe 8 from the Fremonth factory has panel issues. That's not a thing from the Chinese or EU fa Tory and mostly gone in the Fremont ones.
Range is the same issue as your petrol one. No one gets that range as it's under "ideal" conditions. If you want to be mad, be mad at your EPA and how they test and rate all cars.
All I have are internet myths and one semi-close friend with a Model 3 to go on. Theirs has some paneling alignment issues but they don't seem to care.
I have only that example and what I've read to go on. The range issue is understandable, I'd thought it was simply more accurate since it's an EV and not BS range we get with combustible fuel.
I mean granted yeah, it's not perfect. But for me and what I need it to be done aka be fully electric and have a good amount of range along with a charging network, they have it all.
When other manufacturers adopt NACS and they open their charging stations there will be a lot more options and that are worth it. But for now I'm happy with the car.
I wouldn't desire or try to change your opinion on the vehicle. I've had wavering interest in them myself but never enough confidence in the companies longevity to make the investment.
How i see it, the physical build quality is pretty poor, but the UX is a bit better, as a lot of car companies are pretty terrible at car software.
I haven't been in a car where I feel 100% satisfied with the UX. I guess it takes a different hat.
I definately agree, no car is close to 100%, but at least with tesla, they put more effort into it than some long time names, even if i dont neccesarily agree with some of their choices (e.g digital ac control)
Something as basic as getting maps to function correctly and consistently for some vehicles is a Challenge.
Based on what I’ve heard about the build quality I don’t agree the cars are solid
Agree. They have the best batteries and were ground breaking on the things they provided…but darn, those cars are louder inside than my Toyota Camry.
And yes, to an extent we haven’t invested in a Tesla because of Musk. My wife can’t stand him. We’ve postponed buying an electric and we’re looking to see how PoleStar develops. At least for our entry point.
Volvo’s had really great build quality for decades now. Polestar might be my first EV too, especially if they bring back a sporty hatchback like the C30
They have some of the worst build quality of any cars sold in the USA.
Completely aside but I find this interesting:
I'm surprised hybrids have better reliability given their overall increase in complexity compared to either electric or ICE cars. Though frankly I'm not surprised Toyota does them well...
That is a bit surprising for the reasons you say. EVs having less reliability overall kinda makes sense given the market is still going through growing pains. I'm betting it will improve quickly given that most manufacturers are still ramping up production.
Exactly.