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Google Chrome warns uBlock Origin may soon be disabled

Google Chrome is now encouraging uBlock Origin users who have updated to the latest version to switch to other ad blockers before Manifest v2 extensions are disabled.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I don’t even know if Mozilla considers Mozilla FakeSpot to even be a partner or just a core component of the company.

I think it's irrelevant provided the only data FakeSpot sends to advertisers comes from data it collects on its own, and not from data Mozilla has collected from other sources (e.g. PPA). Those should always be separate.

Brave is one too.

Well yeah, they have their own search engine, and they place ads on webpages, so they're absolutely an ad company, since that's their core revenue stream.

With Mozilla, it's a bit trickier because they don't directly place ads, and the PPA feature is still in an evaluation phase. Pocket is certainly an ad-based product, and Fakespot definitely seems like one, so I guess there's an argument there? But the vast majority of Mozilla's money comes from Google for search. Is that advertising revenue? Kind of?

Mozilla is a weird company. I'd rather them be an independent, privacy-focused ad company instead of reliant on search deals, provided they can handle ads in a privacy-friendly way. I'd prefer them to offer a replacement for ads, where users could pay whatever the ads are earning for the website instead of seeing the ads, and I see this as a step toward that. If Mozilla controls the data collection and potentially ad selection, they could also theoretically offer customers a way to pay to drop that nonsense. That's my horse in this race.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

[Private data] should always be separate.

Mozilla is explicit that Mozilla FakeSpot gives Mozilla Corporation private data. Assuming Mozilla would behave well, especially given all the evidence to the contrary, sounds like wishful thinking>

[Brave places] ads on webpages, so they're absolutely an ad company...

Mozilla also runs the ad company Mozilla Anonym, and now they traffic in other people's data.

If Mozilla controls the data collection and potentially ad selection, they could also theoretically offer customers a way to pay to drop that nonsense.

I feel like I'm a broken record, but I've said again and again that Mozilla sells geolocation and browsing data to ad companies.

This is the face Mozilla is presenting to you: The face of privacy violation.

There is no reason to assume Mozilla will change now. They had months and months to rewrite the Mozilla FakeSpot privacy policy. They decided to spit in the faces of consumers instead.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Mozilla also runs the ad company Mozilla Anonym, and now they traffic in other people’s data.

Huh, that's a pretty recent acquisition. I guess we'll see what they do with it.

Mozilla sells geolocation and browsing data to ad companies.

But isn't this only if you opt-in to their extension? I don't, have never, and probably will never use that extension.

But I guess we'll see if they'll amend the privacy policy of FakeSpot and stop the sale of personal data to advertisers, which would be in-line with the privacy policy on the rest of their services. But that absolutely is my line in the sand. If they integrate FakeSpot with that terrible privacy policy into Firefox, I will leave to a different browser. I sincerely hope they just haven't fully integrated the FakeSpot org into Mozilla, though their Privacy Policy was updated in Jan of this year, over 6 months after the acquisition.

Maybe Mozilla won't change. I don't know. What I do know is they're currently the best option for an open web. If they fumble that, I guess I'll go try using something like Konqueror again. But until that happens, I'll just avoid their services that violate my privacy.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Wait and see...

FakeSpot was the last "Wait and See" moment I experienced as Mozilla fans told me Mozilla would fix their terrible privacy policy.

They did not.

Perhaps you also missed their recent round of firing employees, which they attempted to pin on an executive with cancer who spoke out against disproportionately firing minorities too...

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, some sketchy things for sure. But at least for now, they don't seem to be messing with Firefox, and that's the only product from them I use.

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