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[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't like segregating toxic behavior into perceived gender roles. It's just toxic behaviors. Which exist across all genders and spectrum.

I watched my grandmother's mental state decline into pretty bad dementia before she died. Sat on her bed next to her now than a few times because she couldn't figure something out. "Your brain is being an asshole gran"

But sometimes it wasn't the dementia that made her an asshole, it was being both in 1934 and moving through a world war having to raise her younger brothers at an early age have her peculiar views in the world and never believed the world moved on.

So she treated some people very poorly by today's standards. She believed people but also institutions didnt listen to women. And ya know what? She lived in a time when she literally had to get her husbands approval on many things we would find just as if not more than the current situations women still face on somethings. Forget all about how her husband spent little time at home, and even when he was home from working trades out of town, he spent most of his time on his hobbies, not the home unless gran had to get him to do something, but she can manage all the admistration of household without him most of the year, but she needed to get his permission for other people, not because he needed her to get his permission to handle the finances. But that was just an annoying part of dealing with the bank, to them it was an inconvenience that they had to put up with, not much more inconvenient as bank holidays when you needed to go to a bank, which you had to go often in the days before debit cards

That was the environment that she formed significant preceptions about the world.

I got a bit off track, toxic behaviour is what we should be framing this problem as, its all part of the same problem, with the same bad behaviours expressed differently reliant on your gender expression.

Though i might be able to be convinced to think of it as toxic worldviews, as a worldview is already multifaceted and ones toxic behaviours are quite often caused by what worldviews you choose to express

this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2024
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