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The connection is that Trump often makes controversial jokes during his extremely long, unscripted and deranged addresses because he is an idiot who thinks he is a genius. Like the "never vote again" quote, the "dictator on day one" quote has been pushed relentessly by the Democrats and Never Trumpers to create fear around a potential second Trump presidency and mobilise an opposing voter base, but if you actually watch that clip in context it is extremely obvious that Trump came up with it on the fly and thought he was very clever and funny for doing so. It's not part of some master conspiracy (which he just conveniently happened to reveal in a nice little sound bite for his opponents to attack him with) to get into office and set up some kind of permanent succession thing where Republicans control the country for the rest of time. The guy does not care enough about anyone other than himself to actually have a plan like that.
He won't put Republicans in control he will put his family in control like in North Korea. He is afraid if he steps down he will go to jail, and also wants to keep power to keep making money and keep getting his narcissism fix.
Dude we don't even need that at all. Trump's disloyalty to American democracy became crystal clear after the 2020 elections. He literally spent every single day from election day to January 6 plotting to overturn democracy, going from one scheme to the next until the final act was an outright coup attempt in a mob attack on our capital. That proves he is extremely disloyal to America and our core values and is a power mad neofascist.
Trump is not even supposed to be allowed to run because the 14th amendment says Trump is now disqualified to be president. In Venezuela they made the mistake of allowing Chavez to run for president after he made a failed coup attempt. Chavez completely enshitified the country with a 'project 2025' type plan in which competent people in government were replace with incompetent loyalists. That was decades ago and since then millions of people have fled the country and those that remain behind have become impoverished. Venezuela used to be the most successful democracy in South America, but there haven't been any free and fair elections since Chavez.
This isn't about whether Trump is "disloyal to democracy", or whether he'll attempt to "steal" an election like he did in 2020. It's about whether there will be another election in 2028 if he wins in 2024. It's really important to distinguish between things Trump does because of his fragile ego (not being able to handle losing, surrounding himself with yes men, propagating a myth that he is the greatest) and things he does because he has a master plan outside of his own hubris. There is a lot of evidence for the former, but very little for the latter. Everyone knows he has a massive personality disorder stemming from his relationship with his father which makes him incapable of handling defeat. Stepping down after winning two terms is not defeat, there is no reason for him to fight it.
No it is not. It's about whether there will be another FREE AND FAIR election in 2028 if he wins in 2024. Venezuela just had an election. Chavez successor claimed victory but in reality he only got about 1/3 of the vote. The have been many elections but no free and fair elections since Hugo Chavez won in 1999 after he was allowed to run in spite of his failed coup attempt.
At a minimum he needs to make absolutely sure nobody can put him him prison for his crimes. He will turn the temperature up for 4 years so see if he can get away with an "emergency" to stay in power. If he can't pull that off then at the absolute minimum he will rig the 2028 election so that either a family member or a loyalist comes after him to protect him from going to jail for his many crimes.
It's not like we don't know have tons of historical examples from all over the world of one man coming to power and then rigging all future elections.
Did you actually bother to read the discussion I was having with the other commenter before chiming in? This is the comment I replied to:
The conversation was never about whether Trump will weaken democracy in the US. It was about whether you will have the opportunity to vote in another election Trump is elected this year,
They are both possibilities. We may never get to vote again. Or we may get to vote, but the outcome is predetermined by Treason Trump. They are both the effectively the same.
Listen to someone when they tell you the truth.