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This isn't about whether Trump is "disloyal to democracy", or whether he'll attempt to "steal" an election like he did in 2020. It's about whether there will be another election in 2028 if he wins in 2024. It's really important to distinguish between things Trump does because of his fragile ego (not being able to handle losing, surrounding himself with yes men, propagating a myth that he is the greatest) and things he does because he has a master plan outside of his own hubris. There is a lot of evidence for the former, but very little for the latter. Everyone knows he has a massive personality disorder stemming from his relationship with his father which makes him incapable of handling defeat. Stepping down after winning two terms is not defeat, there is no reason for him to fight it.
No it is not. It's about whether there will be another FREE AND FAIR election in 2028 if he wins in 2024. Venezuela just had an election. Chavez successor claimed victory but in reality he only got about 1/3 of the vote. The have been many elections but no free and fair elections since Hugo Chavez won in 1999 after he was allowed to run in spite of his failed coup attempt.
At a minimum he needs to make absolutely sure nobody can put him him prison for his crimes. He will turn the temperature up for 4 years so see if he can get away with an "emergency" to stay in power. If he can't pull that off then at the absolute minimum he will rig the 2028 election so that either a family member or a loyalist comes after him to protect him from going to jail for his many crimes.
It's not like we don't know have tons of historical examples from all over the world of one man coming to power and then rigging all future elections.
Did you actually bother to read the discussion I was having with the other commenter before chiming in? This is the comment I replied to:
The conversation was never about whether Trump will weaken democracy in the US. It was about whether you will have the opportunity to vote in another election Trump is elected this year,
They are both possibilities. We may never get to vote again. Or we may get to vote, but the outcome is predetermined by Treason Trump. They are both the effectively the same.