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In the same time they're claiming Algeria is woke and sent a trans woman, they also claim Algerians are backwards who beat up women.

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[-] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago

i hate that you can't even point this out to people without them getting pissy, like 'art' is supposed to be some transcendental ultimate expression of humanity, or its at least supposed to say something about some aspect of the world, but even fellow leftists in my life trip over themselves to praise how great the movies were. and what do the movies even say about anything? if you are the chosen one then things will basically work out for you no matter how shitty your life is now? that new-rich ghouls are just as valid as old-rich? the series has absolutely nothing interesting to say whatsoever. a bit of twee bri'ish aesthetics and 'wot if i were actually secretly rich' wish fulfillment and 'wot if school but magic and i was better than everyone else' fantasy and the squealing hogs go fucking wild though. nothing but 'high production value' garbage slop. i swear to SANAT, nostalgia destroys the critical reasoning parts of the human brain. i liked the movies when i was a kid too, i also liked picking my nose and eating nothing but mcdonalds chicken nuggets, i was a disgusting moronic hobgoblin like all children are.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

All five non-transphobic ride-or-die Potterheads: "You're supposed to do a heckin' death of the authorino!"

Me: OK gui-trans

[-] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

yea 'i promise its better if you completely ignore the context and history of its creation' is not the artistic win they think it is lol, like for really great art you want to know more, you want to know how it was made and by who and what lead to the ideas behind it and what influences the artist(s) drew from, this 'death of the author' thing is classic reddit-ism championing less engagement and less intellectual rigor in our media and art discourses, demanding you 'turn off your brain' and divest yourself of all critical reasoning so you can 'shut up and enjoy' the corporate slop without too much friction. its anti-intellectualism and anti-art, even anti-humanity.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

this 'death of the author' thing is classic reddit-ism championing less engagement and less intellectual rigor in our media and art discourses,

Depends on how its used. If anything I see things like "your autism headcanon is wrong because the author didn't intend that" as a reddit-ism.

Sometimes its used that way, sometimes its not. Most people citing it have no idea what the entirety of Barthe's theory was anyway. They can mean anything from "I dont think I should have to engage with the reality of the LIVING author's intent, the blatant bigotry in the work, and the actual hateful things they are actively doing in the world" to "I dont care if its intended, [character] reads [neurodiverse or queer] to me".

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

No yeah unironically that would be a net good for everyone and if they really weren't transphobic they would agree with that. I have some mostly nostalgic affection for Harry Potter left over in me, mostly emotional attachments to a few specific characters, it would be nice to be able to able to engage in transformative works and shit without supporting her so if she was dead that would be great.

(I disagree with being so dismissive of death of the author though. Bartes's whole theory sucks because the idea that authorial intent means nothing isnt true but the way people tend to be mean it when they cite it is things like "headcanons are as real as you want them to be, it doesnt matter if the author intended them" and as someone who's had my autistic headcanons dismissed because of "the author didnt intend that" I think thats important.)

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Clearly, Chuck Tingle's Harriet Porber series is the morally superior alternative

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

like 'art' is supposed to be some transcendental ultimate expression of humanity,

Uh the Harry Potter books and movies are not super high levels of art or anything but I disagree with this. "Art" is not a superlative. Bad art is art. And you don't need to be saying something super deep, whether intentionally or unintentionally, to be art. (Also art is subjective and you can find deep meaning in seemingly shallow things, the reason why I dont have time for people trying to do that with Harry Potter right now is because it gives money to the face of the transphobia movement, not because I think theyre wrong to do so).

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Also art is subjective and you can find deep meaning in seemingly shallow things...

From what I've gleaned hearing leftists here and other places discussing it, it works as a lense into the brain of libs in that they oppose fundamental change to solve problemn and are perfectly fine with the same shit system as long as the right person is in charge.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

There is exactly one transcendental shot in exactly one of the movies:

[-] iie@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

what's transcendental about it?

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago
[-] iie@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

lmao props to the set designers

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