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[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Lemmy had the feature to tip with gold, instance operators would pop out of the ground like weeds and do anything to grow. It could lead to a flourishing of the fediverse.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And the enshittification would start.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 15 points 3 months ago

Exactly that.
There is a reason we don't have any direct rewards to donating, and there is a reason we aren't aiming to grow as big as possible come what may.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There really is some kind of bizarre twilight zone in the fediverse, where people understand that we need money to live in our societies, but still want free services by private individuals.

"We can't make it easy to give money to people running the fediverse software and hardware, that would be capitalism. they should do it for free and hope we donate"

"We can't make it worthwhile for content creators on the fediverse, that would be capitalism, they should do it for free and hope we donate"

Some individuals carrying the cost for all others is not socialism: it's exploitation. A very well known theme in capitalism.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have a < 100€ thinkcentre running my lemmy instance for < 10€ a year.

We don't live in the nineties any more when bandwidth and computers were quite expensive.

Also, if you are a content creator, well, maybe an online forum, or the fediverse, or the local library just isn't going to help you that much in sales. But if you do have something to sell that people want to buy, then there are lots and lots of places for you.

That doesn't mean the fediverse must accept ads or coins or other dark patterns, who are the backbone of bad capitalism, not people spinning up lemmy servers for free lol.

[–] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago

If energy were abundant enough, we could create a highly advanced society where everyone used complicated technology for free though, at least if people cooperated.

Solar fusion could possibly achieve this in the future.