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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Define "worked" in this context. You mean their own infrastructure didn't crash? You certainly didn't pop down to the store and buying anything useful with Monero ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Not that day I didn't, but I have bought Domino's several times this month, and I bought my groceries at the beginning of the month.

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 1 month ago

So do you use some kind of payment app that does a conversion or do you have to manually convert from Monero to fiat currency?

Most retailers don't accept crypto at the point of purchase so I'm curious as to how this would be convenient enough to use regularly.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

There are businesses that specifically sell gift cards to retailers for Monero and when possible I search out and purchase from retailers who accept Monero. Https://monerica.com and https://xmrbazaar.com help with that.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 1 month ago

Define "worked" in this context.

You can still exchange funds as normal because no necessary components or intermediaries were affected by the outage. Only conventional banking systems.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

My point was more that using Monero as an example is probably not the best way to cryptobrah an illustrative point.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 1 month ago

I don't see how you were making that point.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Because you can't just go and buy real world goods at will as with cash. If there's ever a Carrington Event, your Monero is worthless in an emergency.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can use it for all the same things you can at any other time, as I said. Still not sure what your point is.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Lol. How is your crypto gonna work without global peers and internet, friend?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

Nothing happened to the internet

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 month ago

Paper wallets. It is definitely false that crypto requires the internet, because it does not. It's more helpful if it has the internet, for sure, but it's not an absolute hard requirement.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ha. Okay. How do you expect ledgers to get updated then? You're aware that a blockchain can't function without multiple distributed peers, right? That means power, and the Internet.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One internet connected computer could make many paper wallets of whatever denomination they wished and then use those as currency. As long as it's provable that the paper has not been spent which a hologram or one of those gift card scratch off things would help with. Anyone who receives such a paper that has not been tampered with can be assured that the money that it claims to have is actually there and can take it to any internet connected computer in the world and transfer it to their own digital wallet from the paper wallet. Or they could broadcast the transaction over any kind of transmission medium up to and including amateur radio over HF.

Edit: Unless I'm doing my math wrong, which I totally could be, it would take about a minute and a half to broadcast a current Monero transaction over HF amateur radio with a possible maximum of 6 minutes if full chain membership transactions are 10kb (which i have heard as an upper limit)

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Friend......WOW.

Appreciate the effort in your response, really, but you're just missing the point. Now you're just desperately grasping to make crypto sound useful in an apocalyptic setting, which it 100% is not, and we were not discussing anything like this in the first place.

Cash or tradable goods are infinitely more plausible and useful than crypto in any scenario where there is still a default monetary system functioning. That's just a fact.

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