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Hasbro has a long history of coming up with new ammo types, which ultimately faced a wide variety of fates ranging from near-instant obsolescence to becoming an industry standard.

We all remember the Ultra line, right? Hasbro got salty that 3rd parties were selling better and cheaper darts that were compatible with their blasters, meaning that Hasbro could no longer sell darts at a significant markup. So, they decided to make a new, "better" ammo ecosystem to force people to buy Hasbro-branded ammo for their blasters. (At least, that's what the online nerf community thought that Hasbro's motivations were, and IMO this assessment is probably correct.)

Hasbro has made a few more proprietary ammo types since then: Hyper, which is a worse-but-proprietary Rival, and Mega XL, which was goofy fun and which I kinda wish that they still made.

Hasbro has also made proprietary ammo types in the past. Let's not forget that the standard 50 cal dart was based on Hasbro's Elite dart. Vortex got a good run. Rival and Mega did too, and may yet see more blasters released.

It's not clear to me at this point where this new ammo type is headed. It would be very easy to be cynical and label this new ammo type as yet another Ultra-style cash grab that's doomed to eventual obscurity, but I think it's too early to tell. It might be that. It also might be good.

Again, the industry standard 50 cal dart is based on Hasbro's Elite dart - but that in turn was an improvement (in weight distribution) over their Streamline dart, which was a modification of the tagger/whistler/suction pattern that could fit into magazines. Design choices are still with us today that were not originally made with modern blaster technology or performance goals in mind.

This is a clean-sheet redesign. It's coming from Hasbro, so there's grounds for cynicism here, but it has at least the potential to be quite good.

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My fave is my xshot longshot, yea I like high power, my second fave is my persuader, got a good deal on it, hammer action is fun

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submitted 2 months ago by bowroat@infosec.pub to c/nerf@discuss.online

Just received the Nerf Rival Mirage today, I hope this isn't "low effort" because this is the first thing I wanted to know about it.

Shorter prime than I thought, stiffer than I thought (but not bad), and seems to perform well. The mag release is positioned on the grip in a way I can only hit it with my middle finger stretched around which will take some adjustment. I do have medium-small hands though.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Herbert_W@discuss.online to c/nerf@discuss.online

Edit: we have links for both at Walmart now. That was fast! Both are currently showing as out of stock, but hopefully that'll change soon.

Commentary from Walcom:

Looks like we have some refreshes of some of the best blasters Dart Zone has made... and it looks like they're listening. Posted by Blaster_Time and floating all over the interwebs this morning, these two have some very important looking changes. Obviously all subject to change, but the Nexus Pro X is short-dart only (thank you Dart Zone!) and looks to include a BCAR on top of a stock and optic (as well as a rail attachment that holds a PCAR?), giving it this little PCC vibe and I love it. The Aeon Pro X looks to include a PCAR, and has a redesigned priming grip and extra rails and just like the Nexus Pro is only chambered for Short Darts. These are definitely some upgrades from the externals, we can only hope they feel solid and perform up to the standards that DZ set themselves.

How exhilarating, get excited.

Also, those look like AR15 grips. If they are that'll mean that these blasters are compatible with the wide variety of aftermarket and printable grips for that platform.

The barrels are low. That's . . . odd. I can't say what that means, but I'm curious to see what these blasters look like inside.

I think Walcom is right: this is exciting news - and DZ is listening, which is in itself also good news.

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Who remembers the old integration competitions that /r/nerf used to host?

They were a lot of fun and brought out a lot of innovation, and Mister Nathan is hosting a new competition in the same style - a sort of revival, if you will.

If you're new to integrations (or would like some tips and tricks), then I'd highly recommend Mister Nathan's mod along series. He does integrations very, very well. His methods tends to be a bit more high-effort than the old ways of dremels and bondo, but well worth it.

This competition will run from Feb 1st to April 30th, and the rules are in the description of the linked youtube video. Here's the discord invite link.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by bowroat@infosec.pub to c/nerf@discuss.online

I feel like this is probably written about elsewhere, but all I've seen is info on the Challenger. I noticed today the walmart Mirage page had images.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/seot/3730714379 https://imgur.com/a/3iL1Q1I

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submitted 6 months ago by Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml to c/nerf@discuss.online

Names

  • Dart Zone Covert ops Max solo 9.99
  • Dart Zone Covert ops Max Stryker 2.0 49.99
  • Dart Zone Storm Squad Blaster 2pk 9.99
  • Dart Zone Covert ops Renegade Double Barrel 9.99
  • Dart Zone Covert ops Bulldog Tripod belt Blaster 29.99
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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by gplanon@lemmy.world to c/nerf@discuss.online

I remember Black Friday a couple years back, my friends and I buying multiple rapidstrikes for $25, ecstatically.

Now I can’t be motivated to buy it for $5.

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If this looks familiar to you, that might be becasue you saw this on reddit four years ago. A lot has changed in those four years, and now this belongs here.

This is a collection of mostly GearUp and Sonic blasters (uncommon, but far from super rare) and misc. other green and orange blasters obtained through several years of trawling through thrift stores and kijiji (local craigslist equivalent). The key, in my experience, is to be both persistent (becasue the more you look, the more you find) and selective (for the same reason).

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submitted 7 months ago by GraniteM@lemmy.world to c/nerf@discuss.online

Glad to see a Dart Zone take on the Jolt. It shoots great, takes up no space at all, and is lots of fun. I'll admit that I'm bit concerned with the long term durability of the folding barrel mechanism, but out of the box my impression is that the blaster is great.

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I need a full length dart with reasonable accuracy and will not jam in a mag. My xshot ones can't work in magazines.

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This is a documentary from 2016, but it's only relatively recently been uploaded to youtube.

This is both a more important and a less pleasant documentary than the headline description implies. It's the story of a man haunted by PTSD and digital escapism after a deadly plane crash, who turns to building a nerf arena - which then turns into a community and leads to them joining collegiate Humans vs. Zombies.

It's personal and it's raw, but ultimately it's about how much a hobby that involves in-person interaction, and physical activity, and tinkering, and intense gameplay all in one package can improve people's lives.

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Practicality aside, it's very impressive that this is possible.

Here's part 1.

Here's GatlingTommy's blaster which, while also firing over 100 darts per second, does so with multiple barrels.

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submitted 10 months ago by Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml to c/nerf@discuss.online

I'm looking to make homemade Nerf darts. I'm looking for a thick foam and a hard tip. What would you guys recommend?

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by robmexx@lemmy.world to c/nerf@discuss.online

I was excited getting the Longshot Pro in Germany finally. At home I put her on the shooting range and was like wtf… it’s worse then Nerf. I checked the PT but it looks fine. I’ve then seen the label on the box: only up to 66ft / 20m

Don’t buy at smythstoys or you have to mod it

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submitted 11 months ago by senorali@discuss.online to c/nerf@discuss.online

Has anyone with a Stryfe X mentioned anything about storage charge for the battery? It seems like all it can do is plug in and charge to full from what I've seen.

In theory, could I use a USB-C to XT60 connector and charge that battery on my balance charger, or would the battery's internal board mess with that process somehow?

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submitted 11 months ago by eleefece@kbin.social to c/nerf@discuss.online

So, apparently, Nerf wants to compete against the DartZone Pro and X-Shot Pro series.

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Great game, got the hook up to complete this Blue Unity Power System

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Internals and measurements

Reliability testing

For stock chrono numbers and another person's opinion on the blaster, here's Coop's review.

To summarize: The Sportsman is surprisingly reliable given that it is a hopper-fed dart blaster with a breach with a failure rate under normal conditions of only 3%, which is something that we had previously assumed would be impossible. However, "surprisingly reliable" is not the same thing as "very reliable." I'd recommend the Sportsman for superstock games and/or as part of an integration but it would not be good to count on to stun a charging zombie in HvZ.

This was originally posted to Reddit (and is being reposted here because Spez is a very naughty boy); some good points were raised in the comments. I’ll copy/pate them here.

/u/LightningEagle14

3% failure rate sounds perfectly acceptable for most situations, and honestly probably good enough for hvz. The thing that appeals to me the most about this blaster (and that is making me heavily consider purchasing one) is how easy others have found it is to convert it to a sealed breach. I remember seeing a couple posts about that, and the performance was superb. 140+ fps on the stock spring. A 140 fps blaster that doesn't use magazines would be great for superstock games. https://www.reddit.com/r/Nerf/comments/ia2kwc/adventure_force_sportsman_brass_breech_mod/

/u/Herbert_W

Keep in mind that reliability goes down dramatically when pumping the grip rapidly. This would be good for plinking distant zeds but defensively it's pretty poor.

While this is subjective, even 3% is too high for me when a single failed shot could end an in-game life that lasts a week and happens once a year. I love playing as a zombie, but dying due to equipment failure is pretty frustrating. I'd much rather die due to a zombie doing something clever.

This leads me to wonder what effect a brass breech would have on reliability. The stock breech has a little bit of chamfering at the lip of the chamber and a brass system could be made to roughly the same shape, so I'd assume that the effect on reliability would be small.

Worth noting: as I pointed out in another comment, the hoppers could be made to be removable. A brass breech would be a natural fit for this sort of mod.

/u/torukmakto4

Excellent testing rigor to say the least! It actually did surprisingly well.

A situational that comes to mind with casual HvZ use is that people in the bad old days often didn't know how to manage magfed systems or that leaving a mag loaded for a week (or a year!) is bad.

I once felt a random heebie jeebie that led me to idly take the mag out of a rifle belonging to the leader of a "semi-serious" squad at Florida Poly and unload it while we were all sat around a table working out the infil plan. Well; trust heebie jeebies. There were half a dozen outright FLAT darts in there. Foam smashed to about 1/8" thick. I don't even know how that happens unless you put a worn foam into the mag and THEN leave it for a year - new foam will not take that much of a set from a mag spring. He got 2 clips of new ammo and "The talk" about unloading mags nightly and all the usual stuff, but given how he played the game in general, he was mindblowingly nonchalant about learning that his mag had contained 6 near-certain deaths just below the few shots he fired in the last mission.

Anyway, where I am going with this is that unlike a mag (detachable or fixed) OR a revolver, a bulk hopper of darts would likely not lose reliability due to storage time, and if you chucked it in the closet until next season (uncocked), you might have 20 good, protected, darts in there when you pulled it out.

Brass tubing barrels always cause trouble when it comes to getting good feed ramps that don't present a sharp edge to rounds anywhere. Perhaps using something thicker wall for the chamber (at least) would make more sense? .527 aluminum would be a ogod dart-agnostic one, but since this is presumably not a large springer, maybe it would benefit from a step down to .509 just in front of the chamber.

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submitted 11 months ago by senorali@discuss.online to c/nerf@discuss.online

I managed to find a single Outlaw at a Target in Houston and decided to do a little video on how to easily prime and reload this thing. Both the hammer and cylinder are a bit stiff, but they're buttery smooth when you apply force the right way. Hopefully this helps some people who may not be familiar with a heavy hammer-action.

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(reposting in response to further Reddit nonsense)

Some years back, my boss asked me to design and print a whole bunch of spacer panels for a machine we were developing. I got to it, made a part that balanced size with material usage, printed them like he asked, and... we found out we didn't actually need them. I didn't want to toss them because they looked like they'd be useful for something... but what the flippin' hell am I supposed to do with a few dozen spacer thingies?

I found an answer about a week ago. My Jangular-ish belt loadout is fun, but could use some better mounting to the belt (part of it was literally lashed together with macrame cord and chopsticks). I thought maybe a MOLLE panel would help, but I didn't want to buy more war toys and they always come in threatening military colors.

"Is there anything I already have that I could use? It doesn't need to be fancy, just a panel with holes I can tie stuff to... kinda like those old spacers!"

A handful of screws later, and here we are! Still lashing things together with macrame cord, but that's because I'm a weirdo who's opposed to buying anything I feel I don't have to. A little janky, sure, but it's good enough to hold some mags and even has room for the EMT pouch.

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submitted 11 months ago by senorali@discuss.online to c/nerf@discuss.online

In a quest for truly stupid levels of precision, I've purchased this fantastic little angle finder. I want to securely mount it to a picatinny rail without having to create a custom mount. Are there universal mounts that attach to picatinny and just clamp down on anything you put in them?

I mean, I'm sure there are, but for some reason I'm struggling to search for them. Here's a link to the tool for dimensions and whatnot:

Magnetic Digital Angle Finder - Compact LED Digital Angle Gauge & Level Tool - Measures 0-360 Degree Ranges - Essential Woodworking, Electrical, Plumbing & Carpenter Tools https://a.co/d/20KHzQo

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submitted 11 months ago by RacerX@lemmy.world to c/nerf@discuss.online

Hey folks, I've heard of a few people swapping in a 1.6 Swift spring into the DZMK4 for a quick boost. If I do that, do I have to do any barrel mods? Or is the spring swap good enough to bump the FPS a bit?

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Herbert_W@discuss.online to c/nerf@discuss.online

This is the Chaotic Shortbus - three flywheelers with the triggers linked internally such that pulling the trigger fires a dart from each magazine simultaneously. It's seen use in several games of HvZ at the University of Waterloo and in various nerf wars across Toronto, and I think it came out very well.

It was made from a Demolisher and two Stryfes, plus parts from a Recon Mk2 (forebarrel), Rapidstrike (stock), Rayven (rail), Titan (muzzle devices) and Rotofury (internal forebarrel).

This was an unusual experimental build. I had originally planned to use it with magazines with secondary notches in order to allow a fast “reload” by tapping a mag upwards - but in practice, I’ve found that this style of blaster works best when used almost like a conventional single-magwell flywheeler expect that fresh magazines can be inserted more quickly due to not needing to remove the old nearly-empty one first.

This solves a dilemma that magfed blasters face in HvZ. On one hand, you always want at least enough darts in your mag to survive a charge - but on the other hand, reloading early will chew through mags. Being able to split the difference by inserting a new mag while still being able fire the darts in the old one is very nice.

The main lessons that I’m taking from this build are:

  • Weight matters. A heavy blaster will make you more tired over the course of a long game.

  • Being able to fire if surprised while reloading is nice - but having a quick (and non-distracting) reload procedure is even nicer.

  • Having only two magwells would have been almost as good as having three, while saving bulk and weight.

https://torukmakto4.blogspot.com/2015/01/something-bit-crazy.html

https://torukmakto4.blogspot.com/2015/06/it-has-name-now-progress-on-chaotic.html

https://torukmakto4.blogspot.com/2016/06/misadventures-with-painters-tape.html

https://torukmakto4.blogspot.com/2018/04/chaotic-shortbus-functional-completion.html

https://torukmakto4.blogspot.com/2019/03/chaotic-shortbus-further-tweaks-and.html

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submitted 11 months ago by Sketchpad01@lemmy.world to c/nerf@discuss.online
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