It should be. With zram, I can use similar software even on a 2 GB RAM device somewhat comfortably, unless I open too many tabs in Firefox.

This sounds more like a network problem, maybe something on your end or that one of the repos was temporarily unreachable (usually it's the postmarketOS repo for me in such situations). I recommend running sudo apk update in situations like this and reading through the output. Depending on which repo is unreachable (= if it's one of the alpine repos) it may be a better idea to delay upgrading.

It definitely has nothing to do with the device being dropped from main to community — both categories mean that the device is served by stable.

Hope this helps!

Yeah man, I think the article I initially read about PP Mobian situation was this one here just for reference if I am even remembering right – https://blog.mobian-project.org/posts/2023/09/30/paperweight-dilemma/

Someone stepped up (see https://blog.mobian.org/posts/2024/01/08/highlights-of-2023/ and afaik a-wai also mentioned this at fosdem (https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-3290-towards-a-bright-future-with-mobian-/), also long standing issues like the out-of-tree-WiFi/BT driver are being worked on currently.

Regarding Beepy: I really tried, but ... compared to that, PinePhone was easy to get to a somewhat works state in mid 2020. See https://linmob.net/enter-beepy-esc/#flaws

Depends, guessing from this conversation I'd assume there's currently nothing to thank for.

And because of that: If you like Phosh, consider giving back:

• https://liberapay.com/Phosh/ and
• https://honk.sigxcpu.org/piki/donations/ are simple ways to do so :-)

This may seem odd, but from a person that has a two-digit amount of phones: You know that it's possible two own more than one phone at a time, e.g., a Linux Phone and a Game Phone? ;-)

Very much not. GNOME Shell Mobile was funded by the German Prototype Fund in 2022 IIRC, way later than Phosh was created (funded by Purism for their Librem 5). GNOME Shell Mobile will eventually be part of GNOME proper (meaning it's Mutter, and GNOME Shell, patched to work on small devices), currently it's a patch set on top of multiple GNOME components that's packaged in postmarketOS and the AUR (if you consider AUR stuff packaged).

Phosh was created on based on wlroots (which is also used in Sway and other wayland-native window managers) and GTK3, as a Mobile Shell. Ironically, this way was pursued because Purism developers where told by the GNOME Shell people that an adaptation of GNOME Shell for Mobile would not be feasible.

Both rely on designs created by (at least then) Purism-employed designer Tobias Bernard IIRC, and thus may seem quite similar despite being based on a different tech stack, and both are hosted on GNOME's Gitlab, using all the same apps.

Honestly - using Sxmo on a PinePhone Pro is about as hard-core as you can go beyong building your own thing from scratch.

Ubuntu Touch on Pixel 3a, or Sailfish X on a supported device or a Librem 5 with PureOS even is a lot less geeky and more approachable thing.

Officially, yes, but there's also https://elagost.com/flatpak/ Also (shameless self plug): https://linuxphoneapps.org/apps/org.signal.signal/

I wonder how much additional work would be necessary to actually support A64, too.

But for now this is definitely good news to PineCube hackers/users ;-)

Just look at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

I have a Pixel 3a and it's a really great port.

Writing this on my Librem 5 as a happy Librem 5 user, I struggle to find a good answer - maybe the Shift 6mq is an alternative (see the discussion on that in the equivalent to this thread in c/linux), as Shift have actively supported mainline development. The PinePhone is slower than the Librem 5, and the PinePhone Pro ... I could not daily drive it, too many bugs and too short active use battery life. If you just don't want to rely Purism shipping soon, you can always try a second hand Librem 5. Also: While I am quite happy, I am an enthusiast - YMMV.