jlou

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[–] jlou@mastodon.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The statement is only generates a contradiction if there is an omniscient being. If there are no omniscient beings, it is consistent.

The idea is that it is impossible for a being to both know and not know something. Knowable is not the same as known to a particular being

@atheistmemes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 0 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Article: https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

Video: https://youtu.be/c2UCqzH5wAQ

Either one introduces the argument against capitalism based on the liberal principle of imputation.

Economic democracy, a market economy where worker coop is the only firm legal structure, maximizes liberty much better than capitalism

@canada

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 4 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Capitalism is indefensible from a libertarian perspective. A central libertarian tenet is that legal and de facto responsibility should match. However, the capitalist employer-employee contract inherently involves a violation of this tenet. The employer gets 100% of the legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of the enterprise. Despite workers' joint de facto responsibility for using up inputs to produce outputs, workers as employees get 0%

@canada

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is information in it. Namely, that it itself is false. It is fully grammatical. Similar sentence are obviously valid such as:

This sentence has five words.

That is a true valid grammatical sentence.

I didn't invent the paradox. Philosophers have been contemplating this paradox for a long time.

The problem it gestures at is very deep and similar paradoxes showed up in the foundations of mathematics in the 20th century. It can't be dismissed easily.

@general

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago

The arguments for worker coops are based on liberal economics (https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/). To summarize, the workers are jointly de facto responsible for using up inputs to produce outputs, so by the norm that legal and de facto responsibility should match, they should be assigned the whole product of the firm. Anything else would be unjust.

Equal votes doesn't mean equal pay. Workers can divide the pie however they prefer. In existing worker coops, not everyone gets paid the same.

@economy

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The problem with capitalism is the non-cooperative firms that exist. A democratic economy is an economy where all firms are mandated to be worker cooperatives

@economy

[–] jlou@mastodon.social -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Democracy is the idea that positive control rights over an organization should be assigned to the party governed in or by that organization. This concept is applicable in an economic context. For example, the workers in a firm are governed by management, so democracy implies that the managers be ultimately accountable to the entire body of workers in that firm making the firm a worker co-op.

Capitalism has workers do 100% of the work, but employers receive 100% of the whole product

@economy

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

There are other alternatives like economic democracy. Capitalism vs socialism is a false dichotomy

@economy

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sentence has a presupposition. The sentence I used can be fully formalized in a logic with predicates for knowledge of an entity and truth

@science_memes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Being logical doesn't imply knowing every true sentence.

Also, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knower_paradox

@science_memes

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 9 months ago

Marxism is not the only anti-capitalist critique. There are more modern non-Marxist critiques of capitalism such as the theory of inalienable rights. See: https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

@science_memes

 

"Zoë Hitzig | What is quadratic funding?" - A democratic mechanism that a postcapitalist society could use to allocate resources to public goods, so they're available to each according to need

https://youtu.be/xwY0UAk14Rk

Quadratic funding is an allocation mechanism that allocates more resources to projects that are more popular than projects that are supported by well-resourced concentrated few. It has the potential to solve problems in campaign finance, journalism and FOSS

@leftism

 

How capitalism violates the most boring and obvious principle of justice and treats people like things - "Inalienable Rights: Part I The Basic Argument"

https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

Capitalism violates the principle that legal and de facto responsibility should match in the employer-employee contract.

@aboringdystopia

 

Vague "Anti-Capitalism" is Capitalist

https://youtu.be/-1ZK2-viyAo

Anti-capitalists need to move beyond vague anti-capitalism by criticizing specific institutions such as the employer-employee relationship and private ownership of land. Anti-capitalists should also mention clear specific alternatives such as worker coops, land value tax and land collectivization

@socialism

 

"Inalienable Rights: Part I The Basic Argument" Against the Employer-Employee Contract and for Workplace Democracy

https://www.ellerman.org/inalienable-rights-part-i-the-basic-argument/

@humanities

 

We Don’t Agree on Capitalism: Demarcating the Red and Black

https://wedontagree.net/we-dont-agree-on-capitalism-(essay)

@socialism

 

[video] Intellectual Property is Broken - Dean Baker

https://youtu.be/cJJZUgt8kVM

@georgism

 
 

We Don't Agree on Capitalism: Demarcating the Red and Black

https://wedontagree.net/we-dont-agree-on-capitalism-(essay)

@leftism

 

Reclaiming Democratic Classical Liberalism

https://www.ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Article-from-ReclaimingLiberalismEbook.pdf

"[L]iberalism expresses a skepticism about government[s] being able to “do good” for people. Instead an important role of government is to ... maintain the conditions for people to be empowered and enabled to do good for themselves, for example, in establishing ... the private property prerequisites for the functioning of a market economy as emphasized in ... economic [thought] (e.g., Heyne et al. 2006, pp. 36–38)."
@liberalism

 

Against Intellectual Monopoly with David K. Levine

https://youtu.be/1E_EC9H0Qy8

@libertarianism

 

Intellectual Property Is Broken [Dean Baker]

https://youtu.be/cJJZUgt8kVM

@socialism

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