[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago

I’m sure they would find some way¹ to ruin it, but it would be fun if we could convince them to pass a law in some vice-signaling US state that bans private equity’s purchase of every vet and general contractor and empty house.

¹ Anti-semitism, probably.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is not, in fact, bad that copyright applies to a wider group than publishers, unless you are using "publisher" extremely broadly to apply to "creators".

If "someone gets attacked for posting an image on social media", that rarely means "lawyers came after me because I posted a screenshot of a page from Sandman". It often means that the poster took someone else's art, snipped off the artist's signature, and posted without attribution, and the artist is rightfully angry. Copyright is what enables that artist to continue to eat and make more art. The same goes for music, or software, or movies.

Sure, the system is horribly abused by uneven power structures, as every system in the world is. For music especially, we all know that the takedowns are usually issued by people who have nothing to do with the creation of the protected work, because of the way licensing and rights grants work in that industry. Automated takedown systems (which have to exist because of the scale of online content) also have no reasonable appeal mechanism, and the people making the decisions don't (and can't) make reasonable assessments about fair use and transformative works.

I'm not saying that everyone who participates in piracy is a bad, wicked thief--I absolutely participate in it myself. But copyright is not the villain here; that's just trying to make us feel justified about our actions. Someone made a creative work I enjoyed, and I don't have a moral right to the product of their effort for free.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago

If you always bet on "everything confusing that weirdos say is a euphemism or proxy for Jews or Black people", you will beat the house. Canadians, lizards, trans people, common punctuation marks, apparently also the seelie court I guess.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

oh lord I cannot imagine how they would torment nexus the tao te ching.

...wait yes I can. they'd decide that LLMs are the tao. "What's perfectly whole seems flawed, but you can use it forever." "To know without knowing is best." "If those in power could hold to the Way, the ten thousand things would look after themselves."

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 4 points 6 months ago

When I was listening to the most recent episode of the Maintenance Phase podcast which was all in on mocking J. Michael Bailey with a special dig at autogynephilia theories, I went to go see if David had any history policing weirdos on Bailey's wikipedia page, as an excuse to bring the episode in for a stubsack link. And he didn't, which means, once again, booring.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He says some pretty ignorant stuff in this post that undercuts his argument, though:

Here's the problem: establishing that AI training requires a copyright license will not stop AI from being used to erode the wages and working conditions of creative workers. The companies suing over AI training are also notorious exploiters of creative workers, union-busters and wage-stealers. They don't want to get rid of generative AI, they just want to get paid for the content used to create it. Their use-case for gen AI is the same as Openai's CTO's use-case: get rid of creative jobs and pay less for creative labor.

This isn't hypothetical. Remember last summer's actor strike? The sticking point was that the studios wanted to pay actors a single fee to scan their bodies and faces, and then use those scans instead of hiring those actors, forever, without ever paying them again. Does it matter to an actor whether the AI that replaces you at Warner, Sony, Universal, Disney or Paramount (yes, three of the Big Five studios are also the Big Three labels!) was made by Openai without paying the studios for the training material, or whether Openai paid a license fee that the studios kept?

The writers' and actors' strikes, in an overwhelmingly unionized workforce, did not say "hey, we as a labor force want a cut of the dirty GPT lucre". Instead, they said not today, satan to studios working with GenAI at all. And won. Those writers and actors, who are overwhelmingly huge supporters of copyright and moral rights, defeated the rich assholes at the Big Five not by throwing up their hands and giving all their creative output to the glurge machine, but by unionizing and painful, hard-won solidarity.

Whether SAG-AFTRA and the AFM (or non US equivalents) can organize as effectively for musicians and lyricists is unclear. But Cory, who claims to be a leftist, is defaulting to "you as a musician should work for free" and not "you as a musician should organize to counter the power of capital", and that's about as leftist as Grimes posing with The Communist Manifesto.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 5 points 6 months ago

Doctorow's had some pretty bad takes, honestly, for all I agree with him on some things. His review of Naomi Klein's Doppleganger -- a book which explores conspiracy theories and how they capture people -- reduces the entire book, incorrectly, to his own political soapbox:

Fundamentally: Klein is a leftist, Wolf was a liberal.

This is, frankly, juvenile. Not every bad thing in the world can be mapped on to one's particular soapboxes. Treating GenAI as Good because Copyright is Bad is exactly in character for him.

(Also Cory gets smug about releasing his novels CC, as if all working writers can do that, but I'm sure it helps the family finances that his wife is an executive at Disney. It's great to use money from one of copyright's biggest monsters to act self-righteous about other people trying to make a living.)

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 2 points 6 months ago

Sorry, I’m American, I’ve forgotten how normal human empathy works. I’ve heard that in some places society isn’t entirely driven by spite but I think that’s a myth.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 2 points 6 months ago

It's so beautiful.

How about you remain competitive by fixing your shit? I've met a lead data scientist with access to hundreds of thousands of sensitive customer records who is allowed to keep their password in a text file on their desktop, and you're worried that customers are best served by using AI to improve security through some mechanism that you haven't even come up with yet? You sound like an asshole and I'm going to kick you in the jaw until, to the relief of everyone, a doctor will have to wire it shut, giving us ten seconds of blessed silence where we can solve actual problems.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago

also here for "well the opposite of left wing views is racism"

thanks for saying it aloud my friend

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here's the "what did you like least" survey entries the organizers say they classified as "edgy people":

column 1 Worst thing categories, column 2, What did you enjoy least about Manifest? row 1, col 1, edgy people, col 2, All the racism stuff, row 2 col 1, gender ratio/demographics, edgy people, col 2, way too much eugenics, gender ratio sufficiently uneven that it was a bit uncomfortable, row 3 col 1, people, gender ratio/demographics, edgy people, col 2, Also meeting people.... as a woman I have never felt as ignored and disrespected as I have in some instances the...

"all the racism stuff" = "edgy people". Yup.

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