They did, but that's not where the reference comes from. It actually goes back WAY further to the 1800s, but that's not super relevant (Scots in the Crimean War). The blue line has been referenced in the US for about a hundred years iirc, and had been a reference throughout PDs for themselves since around the 50s.

The movie I mentioned popularized the term outside of the PD, and the thin blue line flags started popping up as part of Blue Lives Matter in response to Black Lives Matter. Which is particularly gross to me, because it comes across as the police being in conflict with people of color, which just kind of proves the point of Black Lives Matter to me.

It took very little time for it to be a white nationalist symbol as well, in no small part due to many police also being members of the white nationalist movements out there...

So the flag is a response to Black Lives Matter, but the "thin blue line" has a much longer history that the flag is a reference to.

Yeah, there have definitely been, we'll call them "prominent posters" here who fit the bill.

Eh, I'd say mostly.

I have one right now that looks at data and says "Hey, this is weird, here are related things that are different when this weird thing happened. Seems like that may be the cause."

Which is pretty well within what they are good at, especially if you are doing the training yourself.

Yup totally get it. This is a point far beyond rehabilitation to me, where the only sane solution is to never allow that person to interact with the public again.

I have zero ability to comprehend any of their "reasoning", and even if they change their behavior, I don't see how it could possibly be worth the risk to the public to ever let them be free.

Its just... So far beyond anything understandable to do something like this.

Around the time of KIA, the NRA getting money from Russia, the change in T_D from laughing at trump t9 being full maga, the changes to r/conspiracy, etc?

Yeah I think that was the specific influence of a certain former superpower that has spent a few years fighting a few days worth of war, but that's my bit of conspiracy theory. Its just too coincidental (with too many known incidents) for me not to believe its all related.

Earlier than that actually, by another 10 years, in an event called the Portland Massacre by opponents of changes which dropped the elements of the Dallas Accord. That'd when the takeover occurred, though the takeover began about 10 years before that.

So its effectively been a total shit show for about 30 years by my estimates.

Unfortunately true. And the reason I personally land with prison is that enough innocent people end up there that I can't support the death penalty. I actually just referenced a convicted murderer just a bit ago, whose conviction was overturned in no small part due to bad police work.

The best prevention, IMO, has nothing to do with the justice system, and a lot note to do with better social services. Counseling before something terrible and irreversible happens, better support for single parents, or even social workers/police/etc doing their job in this case, would have improved things drastically - a little girl would still be alive.

I can't think of a better option than that.

I think that's orange?

Again, its all pretty stupid imo. EMTs, FFs, police, whatever, already have iconography.

The "thin" whatever flags are all bullshit. It all comes back to an 80s documentary about a cop being killed, I think it was Dallas in the 70s. The flag crap all stems from that, which btw found evidence the person convicted of the murder to be innocent (his conviction was overturned after the movie was released). The name was a bit of irony about how cops perceive themselves, and how its different from reality.

Not that you'll find anyone with one of those flags who has any idea what the origins are of course.

Edit: This is the man who was convicted

This is the movie

I think the pale yellow might be dispatchers?

Its all so stupid.

Can someone like that actually be rehabilitated

I doubt it. Which is why I'm a fan of letting them disappear forever in a prison, and never have the opportunity ever again to harm a child.

or can they serve as an example of what happens to monstrous pieces of shit like that?

Also doubt it.

These sort of people will not recognize their own actions as being wrong, and they also wont "learn" from the punishment of others.

So the only thing public torture would do is provide a spectacle for those who enjoy it. It won't deter anything. There used to be public hangings, stocks, etc - which also was not stopping the crimes from happening.

Top choice IMO. Runs beautifully everywhere, and more features just keep on coming...

Just to add to this, the term "loose" was referring to morals, not, you know, lady bits. Because those bits don't work like that.

(General you, not the person I'm replying to who is obviously aware)