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Personally, basically no one I know uses the app stores on windows or macos much. These app stores are actually functional in that they have proprietary apps and allow purchases. There is basically 0 chance Linux will become popular if you can only install things through an app store (especially those that make it hard/impossible to buy proprietary apps). Additionally, desktop Linux is not particularly secure anyway. Flatpaks are helpful here, but most require manual tuning of their sandbox to actually be secure, which the average user is 100% not gonna do. On top of this, what do you do when an app is not available in your curated app store? Do you download it directly online? Do you trust some random repository you find online that can be filled with who knows what at a later point? Or do you just say "oh well sucks to be you I guess?" If you download it directly online, then it may not even have dependency information. If it doesn't embed dependency information, then it's basically useless to your average person. It also has the problem you mentioned of someone downloading the wrong executable. Likewise, the other two options are IMO just not viable.

IMO, the only way for a package manager/app store solution to work is:

1. The platform is built around it from day 1
2. The platform has a large number of developers submitting their packages to it (as opposed to the distro maintainers having to track down changes themselves)
3. The app store has payment methods
4. The app store has proprietary apps
5. The app store has a large number of reviewers that can check the apps submitted in a timely manner
6. Probably bundling dependencies with the apps.
7. The app store has a functional review system with users actually leaving reviews.
8. Going along with the reviews, going through the app store (as opposed to using the package manager directly) may need to be a requirement to encourage reviews, at least at first.

Basically, it needs to be an iOS/Android situation, with a similarly large company backing it. I should also note that it's possible to install malware on iOS/Android, just harder, and the scope is usually less severe because of sandboxing.

EDIT: Also, it's entirely possible to do one-click installs in a "safe" way, by requiring that developers get their apps signed by whoever makes the distro (like macos gatekeeper or whatever it's called).

EDIT 2: I should also note that just being "different" is enough for people not to use something. If something basic, like the way to install apps, is different enough, people may just decide they don't like it. My relatives would likely do this, for instance.

I mean, it is pretty good. The problem is Daniel Micay's (at least I'm assuming it's him) communication style is very... abrasive.

• Needs to come pre-installed on computers.
• Pre-installed distro needs to support one-click installation (like .app or .exe).
• Pre-installed distro needs to have be easily searchable (for problems, and e.g. searching "chrome DISTRO_NAME" needs to pop up with a link to the one-click installer).
• Pre-installed distro needs to run perfectly out-of-the-box, no fiddling with drivers, no needing to issue a random shell command for some random issue.
• UI needs to be intuitive. Probably something like KDE. Could maybe do Elementary or GNOME with dash-to-dock or something.
• Updates should be easy. Ideally apps can self-update or the apps will indicate if they need an update and have a button opening up an updater that can update all your apps/the OS.
• Updates for minor programs need to be hidden/rolled into OS updates. Most people aren't gonna want to see that glibc updated.
• Better management of stuff like VPNs (probably not important for the average user, but e.g. NetworkManager's GUI support is kinda shit).
• If using GNOME, need to have app indicator stuff pre-installed (if I'm being honest, the fact it's not built-in is absurd).
• Needs to come with good basic apps. Some of the default apps included with DEs are kinda shit. There is still no truly good mail client IMO (at least that doesn't look dated AF).

Probably more.

EDIT: Something like Lutris should probably be integrated into the OS. Installing non-Steam games is a minor hassle at the moment IMO.

I can't wait for the AI future.

I'm ngl this looks somewhat useful minus the copilot crap. Having lists and headers and so on are useful for actually taking notes.

Tbh I would not be at all surprised if they were vibe coding. The snafu with the new authenticator app logging secrets, them just churning out random new apps no one asked for instead of meaningfully improving their existing products, claiming to open-source all their apps despite the Android calendar app still (after years) not being open-sourced (and with a GitHub link on their web page that implies all their code is available, but it in fact just links to the web clients), etc. have all combined to the point where I simply no longer trust them.

I still don't fucking understand how people voted for someone who sounds they're having a stroke 24/7.

It's both amusing and a little disturbing that the term for killing the mice is "sacrifice." I'm now imagining a bunch of researchers dancing around the mice while ritually decapitating them.

My dude, the chips aren't manufactured in the US. If the tariffs don't apply to the chips that are inherently imported from outside the US since basically only TSMC and Samsung make them at this point, then there is no tariff at all. Companies in the US import the chips, then use the imported chips as part of their products. All the companies in the US do is assemble the imported parts (and sometimes not even that).

EDIT: Ah, there was a miscommunication. I think we're both saying the same thing at this point. Well, mostly the same, since this doesn't really help US companies and just drives up prices for everything.

I mean up until recently they were all like, "haha just wait until the list comes out and all you libtards get yours." Of course, now that trump has made it abundantly clear he's on it (as opposed to it just being normally clear he was on it before), they've split into gullible idiots who feel betrayed and cultish idiots who now think pedophilia is actually not so bad somehow.

I'm convinced you're a troll/bot. That is not in fact how tariffs work since the chips are not made in the US.

I'm building multiple patchsets on a laptop. How tf do you expect millions of lines of even somewhat optimized code to compile in a minute or two? The configuration by itself wastes like half of that, not to mention nix taking 2 minutes to evaluate because specializations are slow af. It in fact takes more like 2-3 hours for them to finish.