TinyTimmyTokyo

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[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 3 points 2 months ago

Fake journalist with AI slop avatar and slop credentials starts rising in Substack's "politics" rankings, someone asks the Substack CEO what they're going to do about it, and gets told to pound sand.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

Shhh, don't tell him.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It is a much cheaper and quicker means of murdering a bunch of astronauts though, so it does have that going for it.

There's also a better chance that Elon exits the planet sooner.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Joscha Bach Substack article is a strange mix of self-pity, JAQing off, and eugenics. He compares Namibian babies he saw in a documentary to great apes in terms of their childhood development, cites studies showing lower cognitive ability among African American children, and then gets all emotional over the fact that people might think he's a bit of a racist.

AI attracts so many racists -- especially the kind who can't tell that they're racist. I guess it's inevitable for any field of study that includes the word 'intelligence" in its name.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That was quite the rabbit-hole.

The whole time I'm sitting here thinking, "do these mods realize they're moderating a subreddit called 'cogsuckers'?"

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

I was unable to follow the thread of conversation from the archived links, so here is the source in case anyone cares.

Does anyone know when Dustin deleted his EA forums account? Did he provide any additional explanation for it?

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 5 points 4 months ago

I didn't realize this was part of the rationalist-originated "AI Village" project. See https://sage-future.org/ and https://theaidigest.org/village. Involved members and advisors include Eli Lifland and Daniel Kokotajlo of "AI 2027" infamy.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

Its standard crypto libraries are also second to none.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

Follow the hype, Kevin, follow the hype.

I hate-listen to his podcast. There's not a single week where he fails to give a thorough tongue-bath to some AI hypester. Just a few weeks ago when Google released Gemini 3, they had a special episode just to announce it. It was a defacto press release, put out by Kevin and Casey.

 

The New Yorker has a piece on the Bay Area AI doomer and e/acc scenes.

Excerpts:

[Katja] Grace used to work for Eliezer Yudkowsky, a bearded guy with a fedora, a petulant demeanor, and a p(doom) of ninety-nine per cent. Raised in Chicago as an Orthodox Jew, he dropped out of school after eighth grade, taught himself calculus and atheism, started blogging, and, in the early two-thousands, made his way to the Bay Area. His best-known works include “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality,” a piece of fan fiction running to more than six hundred thousand words, and “The Sequences,” a gargantuan series of essays about how to sharpen one’s thinking.

[...]

A guest brought up Scott Alexander, one of the scene’s microcelebrities, who is often invoked mononymically. “I assume you read Scott’s post yesterday?” the guest asked [Katja] Grace, referring to an essay about “major AI safety advances,” among other things. “He was truly in top form.”

Grace looked sheepish. “Scott and I are dating,” she said—intermittently, nonexclusively—“but that doesn’t mean I always remember to read his stuff.”

[...]

“The same people cycle between selling AGI utopia and doom,” Timnit Gebru, a former Google computer scientist and now a critic of the industry, told me. “They are all endowed and funded by the tech billionaires who build all the systems we’re supposed to be worried about making us extinct.”

 

Pass the popcorn, please.

(nitter link)

 

Molly White is best known for shining a light on the silliness and fraud that are cryptocurrency, blockchain and Web3. This essay may be a sign that she's shifting her focus to our sneerworthy friends in the extended rationalism universe. If so, that's an excellent development. Molly's great.

 

[All non-sneerclub links below are archive.today links]

Diego Caleiro, who popped up on my radar after he commiserated with Roko's latest in a never-ending stream of denials that he's a sex pest, is worthy of a few sneers.

For example, he thinks Yud is the bestest, most awesomest, coolest person to ever breathe:

Yudkwosky is a genius and one of the best people in history. Not only he tried to save us by writing things unimaginably ahead of their time like LOGI. But he kind of invented Lesswrong. Wrote the sequences to train all of us mere mortals with 140-160IQs to think better. Then, not satisfied, he wrote Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality to get the new generation to come play. And he founded the Singularity Institute, which became Miri. It is no overstatement that if we had pulled this off Eliezer could have been THE most important person in the history of the universe.

As you can see, he's really into superlatives. And Jordan Peterson:

Jordan is an intellectual titan who explores personality development and mythology using an evolutionary and neuroscientific lenses. He sifted through all the mythical and religious narratives, as well as the continental psychoanalysis and developmental psychology so you and I don’t have to.

At Burning Man, he dons a 7-year old alter ego named "Evergreen". Perhaps he has an infantilization fetish like Elon Musk:

Evergreen exists ephemerally during Burning Man. He is 7 days old and still in a very exploratory stage of life.

As he hinted in his tweet to Roko, he has an enlightened view about women and gender:

Men were once useful to protect women and children from strangers, and to bring home the bacon. Now the supermarket brings the bacon, and women can make enough money to raise kids, which again, they like more in the early years. So men have become useless.

And:

That leaves us with, you guessed, a metric ton of men who are no longer in families.

Yep, I guessed about 12 men.

 

Excerpt:

Richard Hanania, a visiting scholar at the University of Texas, used the pen name “Richard Hoste” in the early 2010s to write articles where he identified himself as a “race realist.” He expressed support for eugenics and the forced sterilization of “low IQ” people, who he argued were most often Black. He opposed “miscegenation” and “race-mixing.” And once, while arguing that Black people cannot govern themselves, he cited the neo-Nazi author of “The Turner Diaries,” the infamous novel that celebrates a future race war.

He's also a big eugenics supporter:

“There doesn’t seem to be a way to deal with low IQ breeding that doesn’t include coercion,” he wrote in a 2010 article for AlternativeRight .com. “Perhaps charities could be formed which paid those in the 70-85 range to be sterilized, but what to do with those below 70 who legally can’t even give consent and have a higher birthrate than the general population? In the same way we lock up criminals and the mentally ill in the interests of society at large, one could argue that we could on the exact same principle sterilize those who are bound to harm future generations through giving birth.”

(Reminds me a lot of the things Scott Siskind has written in the past.)

Some people who have been friendly with Hanania:

  • Mark Andreessen, Silion Valley VC and co-founder of Andreessen-Horowitz
  • Hamish McKenzie, CEO of Substack
  • Elon Musk, Chief Enshittification Officer of Tesla and Twitter
  • Tyler Cowen, libertarian econ blogger and George Mason University prof
  • J.D. Vance, US Senator from Ohio
  • Steve Sailer, race (pseudo)science promoter and all-around bigot
  • Amy Wax, racist law professor at UPenn.
  • Christopher Rufo, right-wing agitator and architect of many of Florida governor Ron DeSantis's culture war efforts
 

Ugh.

But even if some of Yudkowsky’s allies don’t entirely buy his regular predictions of AI doom, they argue his motives are altruistic and that for all his hyperbole, he’s worth hearing out.

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