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On the flip side, the ABs were awful for 40 minutes, ok for 20 and then good for the last 20. Scotland at home scares me.

Yep CGT is a simpler system to apply I think, but doesn't address the real problem which is that once a certain amount of wealth has accumulated wealth begets wealth and the vast disparity ends up with a small class of people fully insulated from the problems their horading causes.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's where a wealth tax works better. Because this tax only applies if you sell, if you have enough assets and lenders are confident they'll continue to grow in value you can just keep buying more and then borrowing against them to cover your expenses year on year.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They probably don't sell it back in a lot of cases as we have all sorts of rules around pasteurisation of imported products don't we? Which would also mean they're not using our milk powder to make any high value cheese / butter type products either.

I would expect most of the ingredients business goes into milk powders, baby formulas, sports supplements and then as inputs to bulk production - say cheese flavourings, bulk cheeses or butter/margarine mixes etc.

ETA - as an example, Buldak's Carbonara noodles are listed on Fonterra's marketing as using some of their bulk ingredients for the creamy flavour. So think packet mac 'n cheese & stuff like that :)

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.fonterra.com/nz/en/flexible-shareholding/supply-fonterra.html

You have to eventually hold 33% of your 3-season average milk supply in shares. And you have 6 years to get to that level of holding.

I can't find an easy guide to work out what that actually works out to in money for a typical farm. I think there are Fonterra shares on the NZX but I don't know if they're the same as what the farmer's hold.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I spent a day helping clear up at an orchard after Gabrielle and there was a whole field where some younger trees were all just gone. I think what had happened in a lot of places was debris from upstream just washed through at velocity and broke everything above ground level away then pushed it down until it hit a barrier it couldn't get over or around.

And in some places, where that barrier was a bridge the weight of water & debris was enough to wash that away too.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago

That was the maths I was working with too - but seemingly there's two parts to it, capacity between the banks and flow rate of the river in flood and for the latter wider is better.

So presumably you can build lower, cheaper stop banks further apart for slower flood velocity and less risk of stop bank failure at the expense of more risk of stop bank overtopping.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

From what I understood of the article one of the issues is that the vegetation - particularly willow - causes sediment buildup and soil comes in over top of the gravel bed. That suggests to me that the soil isn't particularly deep and in a Gabrielle level flood could see anything planted in that deliberate flood zone ripped out and shifted down to the next bridge.

In most of those "reclaimed" areas especially upstream of Fernhill the land is pretty scrubby and I would guess not especially good horticultural land. But downstream from there where the stopbanks have protected it for so long I think there's a much deeper bed of soil - probably by that point the rivers would ordinarily have been going much slower so less often gouging out the dirt.

It obviously adds up in cost because of the overall land area, but my dumbies math does sort of suggest the benefit in retreating stopbanks 15-20m either side would mean being able to contain that much greater volume of water during floods, reducing risk of overtopping.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

A lot of the land lost since the 1950s upstream of Fernhill isn't exactly top quality stuff, but allowing the rivers to meander downstream from there will likely mean some folks have to give up some pretty valuable & fertile land. Better that than continuing to get flooded out given repeat Gabrielle's are more likely.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Rice, beans, split peas & lentils. It might feel like its not that well rounded on the face of it, but you're actually getting carbs, protein & fibre so its better than you might think. And the peas & lentils are dried so last ages, are cheap and cook relatively quick too.

As Dave mentions below adding some stock power for flavour could help to make it more interesting, or if you're going the lentils route a curry powder (if you like spices) would add variety too.

Just to add to Dave's price list, looking at Woolworths (as going by google maps that's likely the nearest supermarket):

  • Red Split Lentils come in a 375g bag for $2.30 - which works out to $6.10 / kg so is cheaper than buying from the bulk bins.
  • Green or Yellow Split Peas are even cheaper a 500g bag for $2.20 - so $4.40 / kg.

ETA - just a thought as well, I would guess Papakura probably has an Indian grocers (often small dairy sized) or other non-main stream grocers. Particularly the former you can often get a far wider variety of dried legumes, beans etc for a good price.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Live in a place like Heretaunga Hawkes Bay where in winter you get very still nights with a pocket of really cold air that traps the smoke from wood fires from dispersing and its pretty apparent just how polluting using wood to heat homes can be.

At times in winter a 15 minute walk from town to home and your clothes will reek like back in the old days of smoking ciggies inside in pubs.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not as much as pro wood burner would be.

 

So all teams have played now, and the early signs are that this season is going to be an absolute belter.

Of the 10 games, only 2 have been a bit of a blow out, everything else has been well fought for the full 80, and with the Aussie teams absorbing one club to reduce to four they look much more competitive already.

Probably the biggest talking point so far is how the new focus on continuing the game rather than pissing about for a cup of tea every few phases is making the last 20 minutes a huge battle.

Basically what happens now is lineouts have to be formed within 30 seconds, I think the only reason to delay is if the hooker isn't available. So there's just way less players taking a knee for a breather (though SR traditionally didn't have much of that anyway).

Kicks, Scrums, Lineouts are all going way faster, and once a player has held up play for an "injury" a couple of times the referee is making sure that its severe, and if it is asking them to get a replacement on.

I expect the popularity of those changes is going to be pretty high down here, but of course international rugby swings to the beat of the NH rule makers so it will be interesting to see if it hurts the ABs & Wallabies come test time, where because the big forwards will be allowed to have a breather any extra fitness gained won't matter.

If you want to watch any recommendations from this weekend: Chiefs-Crusaders for the (so far) clear best team putting on a clinic in that last 20. Highlanders-Blues for one team overcoming cards due to a hugely emotional game and possibly one player demanding Razor gives him the black 12 jersey. Force-Brumbies for a game down to the wire right until the whistle.

 

Just starting an early thread as there's injury news that will impact the weekend.

 

The NZ based franchises & Moana Pasifika are all announcing their squads for the 2025 season today. On the hour, in NZDT:

  • Hurricanes 10am
  • Crusaders 11am
  • Chiefs 12pm
  • Moana Pasifika 1pm
  • Highlanders 2pm
  • Blues 3pm
 

I hated Cheika when he was the Wallabies coach and having ding dong battles with the ABs. But since he's coached around the place and learning a lot more about his story i've begun to find him a much more interesting and charming coach than I ever gave him credit for.

This is a great interview, well worth a listen and i'm so far barely half way through it.

 

I guess week 1 was really NZ v Japan last week, but somehow I don't think that really counts.

Ran out of puff at the end of the NPC so haven't been posting much, but lets have a thread to discuss this weekend's matches.

 

Super Rugby obviously has a bit of a weird structure now with only 11 teams after the Melbourne Rebels collapsed.

It got me thinking a bit about what NZR & ARU could change assuming no other countries are going to join, and one thing I wondered was whether New Zealand should deliberately weaken our Super franchises to help make the Australian ones more competitive & hopefully make their public a bit more interested (if they win more).

So I started to think about what the population spread was like around New Zealand and one thing that really sticks out is how bottom heavy our current distribution of clubs is. 1 million punters in the South Island get 2 franchises, but 4.5m odd North Islanders only get 3 + Moana Pasifika. Its actually a bit silly that the Highlanders still exist given the population shifts since the 90s.

Anyway, that made me wonder if it might be possible to in effect add a 6th New Zealand franchise - which including MP would make 7 based in New Zealand in total, so came up with this before & after table to show how its a much more equitable split. And then 7 NZ, 4 Aus & 1 Fiji gets us back to 12 Franchises and at least in NZ gets more games in front of more people.

Super Franchise Population Approx Provinces Population (2018) Stadiums Capacity
Auckland Blues 1850k Northland 186k Semenoff Stadium 19k
Counties-Manukau ^1^ Navigation Homes Stadium 12k
North Harbour ^1^ North Harbour Stadium 25k
Auckland 1655k Eden Park 50k
Waikato Chiefs 920k Bay of Plenty 321k Rotorua International Stadium, Mercury Baypark 26k & 20k
Waikato 476k FMG Stadium 25k
Taranaki 121k Yarrow Stadium 25k
Wellington Hurricanes 950k Hawke’s Bay 172k McLean Park 24k
Manawatū 248k^2^ Arena Manawatu 15k
Wellington 526k Sky Stadium 35k
Canterbury Crusaders 725k Tasman 103k^3^ Trafalgar Park 18k
Canterbury 623k One NZ Stadium^4^ 30k
Otago Highlanders 335k Otago 235k Forsyth Barr Stadium 31k
Southland 101k Rugby Park 17k
Moana Pasifika^5^ - North Harbour based - North Harbour Stadium 25k
  • 1 Included with Auckland.
  • 2 Includes Whanganui in the census data.
  • 3 From 2026 I think the new stadium is supposed to be in use.
  • 4 Includes Marlborough, same as the NPC Province
  • 5 Moana Pasifika are currently, and for the forseeable future going to be playing most of their matches in New Zealand, neither Samoa nor Tonga have stadiums and infrastructure setup to host like Fiji Drua have.
  • Population regions not included:
    • Gisborne 50k - because its quite remote from either Hurricanes or Chiefs
    • West Coast South Island 32k - because its remote from everywhere
New Regional Franchise Provinces Population Approx Stadiums
Auckland North Northland 850k Semenoff Stadium
North Harbour North Harbour Stadium
Auckland South Auckland 850k Eden Park
Counties-Manukau Navigation Homes Stadium
West North Island Waikato 600k FMG Stadium
Taranaki Yarrow Stadium
East North Island Bay of Plenty 550k^6^ Rotorua International Stadium, Mercury Baypark
Hawke’s Bay McLean Park
Bottom North Island Wellington 770k Sky Stadium
Manawatū Arena Manawatu
Canterbury Crusaders Tasman 725k Trafalgar Park
Canterbury One NZ Stadium
Otago Highlanders Otago 335k Forsyth Barr Stadium
Southland Rugby Park
  • 6 I included Gisborne population in this one as with a franchise based in this part of the country they are a bit more included than they are with the Chiefs or Hurricanes.
 

Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Tasman 9 8 5 37
2 Wellington 9 7 7 35
3 Taranaki 9 7 7 35
4 BoP 9 6 9 33
5 Hawke's Bay 9 6 8 32
6 Waikato 9 5 8 28
7 Canterbury 9 5 5 25
8 Counties-Manukau 9 4 7 23
9 North Harbour 9 3 11 23
10 Otago 9 4 5 21
11 Auckland 9 3 7 19
12 Northland 9 2 5 13
13 Southland 9 2 4 12
14 Manawatū 9 1 5 9

Fixtures: 4/10:

  • Northland v Otago

5/10:

  • Manawatū v Counties-Manukau
  • Southland v North Harbour
  • Wellington v Hawke's Bay
  • Canterbury v Waikato

6/10:

  • Tasman v Taranaki
  • Auckland v Bay of Plenty

Notes: Auckland managing to fail against Hawke's Bay on the Saturday didn't bode well for their effort to take the shield off Tasman, and sure enough they failed again so bar a miracle where they manage to beat BoP and the two worst teams pick up wins they're out. Ditto for Otago.

The drama in this round is basically down to how many bonus points North Harbour pick up against Southland, compared to Counties-Manukau against the Manawatū Turbos who are awful.

Beyond that there's still another couple of big games. Given recent form Hawke's Bay are unlikely to be much of a challenge for Wellington, but the Tasman v Taranaki game should determine who gets 2nd place and later that day Waikato & Canterbury are basically playing to determine which team they have to travel to for the quarter finals.

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NZ NPC Round 8 (lemmy.nz)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz to c/rugby@sh.itjust.works
 

Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Wellington 8 7 7 35
2 Tasman 7 7 4 32
3 Taranaki 8 6 6 30
4 BoP 8 5 8 28
5 Hawke's Bay 8 5 7 27
6 Canterbury 8 5 5 25
7 Waikato 8 4 7 23
8 Counties-Manukau 8 3 6 18
9 North Harbour 8 2 10 18
10 Auckland 7 3 5 17
11 Otago 8 3 4 16
12 Northland 8 2 5 13
13 Southland 8 2 4 12
14 Manawatū 8 1 3 7

Fixtures: 27/09:

  • Counties-Manukau v Wellington

28/09:

  • BoP v Northland
  • Hawke's Bay v Auckland
  • Otago v Tasman

29/09:

  • North Harbour v Canterbury
  • Southland v Waikato
  • Taranaki v Manawatū

2/10:

  • Tasman v Auckland

Predictions:

  • Wellington 15+
  • BoP 21+
  • Hawke's Bay 1-^1^
  • Tasman 12+
  • North Harbour 6-
  • Waikato 12+
  • Taranaki 50+

1 - I don't know if Folau Fakatava is back from injury yet or not; he's been out the last two games and without him as a 2nd playmaker my Magpies have been dreadful. No ability to relieve pressure means two massive hidings in a row. This is a prediction from the heart, not the head :)

Notes:

Its now the second to last round, and mathematically probably only Manawatū are definitively outside of the top 8, but I think we can assume that Northland and Southland are also no chance given at best they can only be expecting to win 1/2.

Otago are also only likely to win 1 more match so there's the 4 wooden spooners confirmed and we only need to pick two more teams to stay or slip out of the top 8.

Auckland have had a terrible season, but have 3 games in hand, so could pick up another 15 points, except they are playing Hawke's Bay, Tasman & BoP so are only likely to win 1, they should finish somewhere around 24 points.

North Harbour could beat Canterbury, and should beat Southland so are potentially looking at a points upside of 6-10 points, but Counties-Manukau have a guaranteed win against Manawatū so for Harbour to make it they really need to push for a win against the Rams.

Waikato should pick up another 4-5 points against Southland, even if they lose to Canterbury the following week so are probably safe.

So, weirdly the two other teams that are at some risk are Hawke's Bay & Canterbury, purely because neither of their next two games are guaranteed wins. The Rams are probably more likely to get a win given the Magpies woeful form since losing the Shield, but i'd say both of them are likely safe - even if the 'pies get the job done with bonus points rather than wins.

As for the top of the table, well with a game in hand, the high spending Tasman Makos are most likely to take 1st place again, followed by Wellington. Taranaki & BoP will both get wins this round, so if Auckland continue to suck and Tasman continue to be good, BoP will secure 3rd in the final game of the round-robin ahead of the playoffs.

 
  • All Blacks v Wallabies
  • Argentina v South Africa

Big news ahead of Bledisloe 1 is that Beauden Barrett is out with illness which sees Jordan move to 15, Reece comes on at 14 with Harry Plumber being named on the reserve bench.

That suggests he’s leapt ahead of Havili as the utility player - and in a way it actually does make a lot of sense. Jordan, JB & McKenzie give 3 options at 15, Plumber gives cover at 10 & 12, and ALB gives 12 & 13 cover with the option of Ioane heading to the wing too. Very versatile backs.

 

Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Wellington 7 6 6 30
2 Tasman 6 6 4 28
3 BoP 7 5 7 27
4 Hawke's Bay 7 5 7 27
5 Waikato 7 4 6 22
6 Taranaki 7 4 4 20
7 Canterbury 7 4 4 20
8 Counties-Manukau 7 3 5 17
9 North Harbour 6 2 8 16
10 Southland 7 2 4 12
11 Otago 7 2 4 12
12 Auckland 6 2 4 12
13 Northland 7 1 4 8
14 Manawatū 7 1 3 7

Fixtures:

20/09

  • Hawke's Bay v Taranaki

21/09

  • Northland v North Harbour
  • Canterbury v Counties-Manukau
  • Wellington v BoP

22/09

  • Waikato v Tasman
  • Auckland v Southland
  • Manawatū v Otago

25/09

  • Taranaki v North Harbour

Predictions:

  • Hawke's Bay 3+ (going with my heart on this one bc after last weekend, the head says its going to be a struggle)
  • North Harbour 14+
  • Canterbury 10+
  • Wellington 4+
  • Tasman 10+
  • Auckland 10+
  • Otago 5+
  • Taranaki 10+

Notes: Including this weekend there are 3 rounds left until the quarter-finals, the current top 4 should make the top 8 though all of them would be hoping for at least 1 win from the next 3 matches. Especially with Tasman & Taranaki having a game in hand, the former should be eyeing up top of the table.

Of course, they're a very good team, and clearly well resourced given the talent they have signed up so anything outside of top 4 would have been a fail. I'd say the top 7 are probably going to make the playoffs and its really just about whether North Harbour or Counties-Manukau squeek in last place.

 

Write up from my old mate Max Rashbrooke on the success of the school lunch program, and the likely impacts of the cuts to the program from the National-Act-NZ First government.

 

Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Wellington 6 6 6 30
2 Hawke's Bay 6 5 7 27
3 Tasman 5 5 3 23
4 BoP 6 4 6 22
5 Taranaki 5 4 4 20
6 Waikato 6 3 5 17
7 Canterbury 6 3 3 15
8 Otago 6 2 4 12
9 Counties-Manukau 6 2 4 12
10 North Harbour 5 1 7 11
11 Southland 5 2 7 11
12 Auckland 5 1 3 7
13 Northland 6 1 3 7
14 Manawatū 5 0 2 2

Fixtures:

13/09:

  • Southland v Canterbury

14/09:

  • BoP v Taranaki
  • North Harbour v Manawatū
  • Waikato v Hawke's Bay

15/09:

  • Counties-Manukau v Otago
  • Tasman v Wellington
  • Northland v Auckland

18/09:

  • Manawatū v Southland

Predictions: Canterbury 9- BoP 5+ North Harbour 25+ Hawke's Bay 5- Otago 5- Wellington 3+ Auckland 9- Southland 5-

Notes: Well, after the absolute tragedy that befell Hawke's Bay in their Shield defense against the Mako, i'm hoping Wellington will visit Nelson and at least ensure that Tasman only get to celebrate for a week.

That should be a hell of a game with all of the squad ABs being released to play for their provinces and Wellington have been very good so far this season.

Last weekend saw a lot of movement in the bottom half of the table - with lots of drama as well. See if you can find clip of wet-ball-gate from the Battle of the Bridge. Absolute dastardly shithousery robbed North Harbour.

There's plenty of other good matches ahead this weekend too - BoP v Taranaki should settle who's in 4th place, and the mid-week home game for the Turbos could be their only chance of picking up a win this season.

I'm glad the tests are over for this weekend, hopefully the rugby pundits down here will pay some attention to the NPC in their shows. But likely it'll get a passing mention while they spend 45 minutes talking up the Wobblies and then at the end of the season they'll have another moan about how nobody cares about the NPC.

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