PhilipTheBucket

It is we who plowed the prairies, built the cities where they trade
Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid
Now we stand outcast and starving 'midst the wonders we have made
But the union makes us strong

1. There are definitely indications of fuckery in the election, the most compelling case I saw came from that one county in NY. According to some other people, it's a Hasidic community that just always votes however their rabbi tells them to vote, but that doesn't seem totally convincing to me.
2. I don't think this story is evidence of that... it's honestly just a bunch of random innuendos about international human trafficking and other voting scandals that have already been exposed as voting scandals. Aside from one change to how config.ini was handled, there is literally nothing that I saw that is even a hint of an indication that something was stolen about the 2024 election. Why not focus on the stuff that proves the case (at least to lay out the broad outlines of the argument)? At least mention what it is? Why demand hand recounts, which are a lot slower and less reliable than other types of more properly done recounts? Why this aggressive flopping around among other issues and arguments? Am I missing something?

you seem to be arguing "Biden had good intentions, so even if he did some bad things, you should give him a pass because he had good intentions"

Not even slightly. I'm saying that he made the situation and outcomes better, and also tried to make it better than that, but failed at some of what actually should have been done.

(And yes, I can pretty much feel the talking-point response to that coming... whatever, I'm familiar with them at this point lol)

You seem very interested in telling me what I am saying, instead of just listening to what I'm saying.

My point is, I don't think there are very many people at all who were fine when it was Joe doing it. I think there are people outraged and horrified that it's happening in the first place, whoever's in offce, and I think there are people who think it's "antisemitism" and just some crazy protestors, and I don't think there are too many people who are conditionally in one camp or another.

Like who are you thinking of, that's suddenly speaking out against it when they were silent about it before? Who can you point to (a public figure or a person on Lemmy)?

the NTSB chair has been going after the FAA, saying that the FAA failed to adhere to 15,000 close call warnings at Reagan National Airport between planes and choppers, failed to act, failed to move the helicopter route so that there would not be a disaster. Failed to listen to controllers who warned of a possible disaster. And she says the FAA has been dragging its feet and not cooperating in this investigation.

This is precisely why the FAA and NTSB are two separate agencies: When you're looking into why a crash happened, it often develops that the FAA wasn't doing some things it should have been doing. And, of course, if the FAA was investigating itself, it would be tempted to downplay how that happened or how big a deal it was. Since it's a totally separate organization that does investigations as the one that enforces airline safety day-to-day, though, they can just state the facts and if it hurts someone's feelings or career prospects, oh well.

It's a leftover from an earlier and more honorable time in American governance.

Okey dokey. If I ever make a simulator that lets you step into a political organization (like Sim City) and try various theories about how to make changes and what's going to happen as a result, I'll be sure to include this scenario, and I'll send you a link so you can give it a shot.

That's actually one of the significant problems that came about during his admin: If you just let ICE "rot on the vine" (which was more or less what was happening, not even because of anything Biden did but just some additional factors in the world), then they keep arresting people but just keep them in increasingly overcrowded and shitty conditions. Which was precisely what happened. It was a fucking nightmare for anyone in detention, and some people died.

This just overall sounds like you have no idea how things work and are making sweeping proclamations about how easy things would be.

because now you don't want to talk about details. you just want to talk in broad strokes. read the wikipedia summary. look at the whole picture of everything Biden did.

Yeah, pretty much. Put it in context, then talk about details and complain about them when they're wrong. Doing it the other way around, picking individual details and then using the specific ones you picked as a reason to conclude things about the whole of what his intent was, seems wrong to me.

So you think the answer is that Biden should have torn up the constitution first, before Trump could do it?

I think we may have to agree to disagree. I think fixing a lot of the structural things that got us here (legalized bribery in government, massive corruption / dysfunction in media and education, a basic lack of real direct democracy, gilded age economic dysfunction, among other issues) would have been a better way. "I'll seize control and fix it, trust me, look at the good things I'm doing" generally doesn't work out real well even if the good things are on the side that you think they should be done for.

Okay, so now we're talking about the reality again?

The reality is that changing ICE requires congress, and a lot of who's in congress is reactionary idiots, and so "kneecapping" ICE would have just not passed and accomplished nothing. And, there were genuine emergencies (overcrowding in ICE facilities, deliberate racism and cruelty by ICE, and the massive backlog of people waiting to get in the country with nowhere to go) that needed to be dealt with, which a performative effort to kneecap it that actually accomplished nothing would have done nothing at all to solve.

Not to mention all those people separated from their families which the Biden administration was trying to find and reunite. It's just not that simple in reality. Accomplishing good things (and failing to accomplish some other realistic things which are also good things) is just not the same as deliberately causing all the cruelty in the system on purpose because you're a terrible person. It's like the Alice in Wonderland thing about mountains and valleys.

And my comment was referring to the current Democrats in Congress, which this article is about, failing to even symbolically vote as a group to hold Israel accountable

Oh. Yeah, that I'll 100% agree with you on. They garbage, for the most part.

It is hard to get account-banned from Reddit. Like mad hard. I mean, I'm not up on current events over there, maybe things have changed and they brand you as "antisemitic" and ban your account sometimes, but I feel like much more likely is that this is a you issue.

No, everyone doesn't deserve a second chance. Certainly not everyone deserves a fourth chance, on the same platform.