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I suspect that your visual objection may be similar to mine, but over the past several years of being subjected to electron trash, using apps written in Qt kind of reminds me now of a simpler time. Nostalgia is a powerful drug, isn't it?

That all being said, I do find myself preferring the look of GTK apps lately, in spite of the rather controversial direction their design has taken.

Oh shit, I didn't know that about Telo. That gives me a little more hope about it, though it still doesn't have the same draw to me as the Slate does, Amazon involvement notwithstanding. Honestly, with how simple the Slate is, I'm curious how Amazon would even exert the same control over their vehicles as Tesla does (but not curious enough to want to find out, of course).

This is my hope. There are so many cross-platform GUI toolkits out there that are orders of magnitude more efficient than electron and nobody uses them. It's not like GTK and Qt are difficult to learn. In fact, I find them easier to wrap my head around than a lot of the JS nonsense out there.

Yeah I just looked at prices for LTO drives and it made me wish optical was still a thing. $3500 for an LTO8 drive alone is more than the value of my entire homelab.

The Slate seems like it's almost there, but the range still kinda sucks. Telo looks promising too, but it has the same vaporware scent about it as the Aptera so who knows if it'll ever happen.

You absolutely can access it from outside your network if you configure it that way.

Oh yeah, I do remember looking at those too, but iirc they were all still at a significant range disadvantage compared to the model 3. Dunno about now, though.

It costs more to implement the hardware necessary to lock them behind a paywall in the first place, though. And I'm not bullying you by telling you that the comparison you're making between cars and stadiums is, in fact, utterly nonsensical. I'm not borrowing space in a stationary building for a set amount of time. I'm purchasing a product that already had the feature in the first place. If it's already there, it's already adding to the cost of the vehicle, and there is no additional cost to the manufacturer whether they use it or not. I've given you multiple examples of how this logic would look in other industries where there are actual parallels, but for some reason you keep coming back to the unbelievably fallacious idea that buying a car is somehow akin to renting a seat at a sports game. They are not the same, in case I wasn't being clear enough.

The cost to install the hardware has already been paid. Fine. What extra monthly effort is required on the part of the manufacturer to ensure the continued functionality of the seat heater? The answer is NONE. Therefore, what right does the manufacturer have to demand a monthly payment for people to use the hardware which is, again, already fucking installed in the car they just spent $60,000+ on? It doesn't require server time. You're not hiring a dude to come out and warm up your seat with his butt every time you activate it. I repeat there is no continued cost to the manufacturer, therefore they have no justification for charging a monthly fee, and the only reason the price goes up is the extra hardware cost from installing the system that charges the monthly fee.

I'm done with this conversation. Please seek help.

That's when I bought mine, and it was either get a Model 3 with ~270 miles of range or a Nissan Leaf or a tiny BMW iQ, both with like 80.

For the record, if the software updates stopped where they're at today, I'd be fine with how the car functions until the end of its life. In fact, I kinda wish they'd just leave things alone at this point because I don't want any extra features out of the thing.

Whether they're expecting it or not, the hardware is there and there is no additional technical intervention necessary from the manufacturer necessary for it to function. A monthly fee for a button to turn on my seat warmers is idiotic. Your bizarre infatuation with comparing cars to stadiums is also as frustrating as it is nonsensical.

This got me thinking that maybe I should grab an LTO drive to use for homelab backups.

I can't remember what the actual voicemail was about, but back in the early days of Google Voice, my dad left me one that got transcribed as "Hi, [name], I have the murder."